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Hot water in cold lines

Iget hot water in my cold water linesespecially after thepropane has shut down model #G6A6

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SOURCE: cold water ok, no water flow from hot water lines.

Bypass valve incorrectly set
obstruction or dirty tank
plugged line - lime or other! does cold flow into tank ok?
Tank is split water going somewhere you can't see - this should be obvious.

There is not really anything to obstruct the flow normally so there
would have to be an obstruction somewhere. Lime, junk, garbage etc build up .
On my coach I have lots of pressure on the cold side so hot would have to have the same unless there is an obstruction into or out of the tank. If in the bypass position you have sufficient flow than the lines are ok and the problem or obstruction is in the tank itself. Drain the tank, leave the bottom plug out, open up the pressure relief valve. Turn on the water and see if you get a lot of water draining from the drain hole on the tank. There should be a lot of water coming out of the drain hole. If so that tells you that your getting sufficient flow into the hot water tank. If so your problem is the water getting out of the tank. Like a clogged return line or an obstruction from the water tank to the faucet. A dirty scale lined tank can do a number on tank water flow. Also check to see if the water is going somewhere else, your tank could be split and you just can't see where the water is going!

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If unit is operable, then turn on hot water and see which pipe gets hot ... and then cold is other pipe.
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The crackling noises is just from air in the water and should be of no concern. If you are having a problem of heating up the water with the unit it is most likely do to water moving too fast through the lines. Ideally, there should be a shutoff valve installed on both sides of your heater (makes for easy removal if it needs to be serviced). But if you turn off the valve about 1/4 to 1/2 way on the one on the "in" side of the heater (where the cold water enters) then you will slow down the water going through the heater and this will give the water a better chance to heat up. This should alleviate the heating problems you are having. If you do have a shutoff valve on the cold (in) side of the heater, shut it off about 1/4 to 1/2 way and then go to your shower and turn the hot on all the way (no cold). Wait for the water to warm and test the water by hand to see if it is the temp you want. If it is still not warm enough, turn the hot on the shower DOWN just a little. This will actually make the water hotter. I know this doesnt seem right but it will. On the other hand, if the water coming out with the hot water fully turned on is too hot, then just turn on a little cold water at a time until the water is the temp you want. Remember, always give the water plenty of time to get from the heater to the shower before you decideof its the right temp. Ideally, you should be able to turn the hot water on all the way and get the hot temp that you want and if you want to cool it down, just turn the cold on just a little bit until it is where you want. I'm fairly sure the problems you are having are due to the water going too fast through the unit and once you adjust that and understand better how these tankless heaters work, you wont have any more trouble. They are difficult to get used to after using conventional water heaters and the manufacturers arent very good about giving you these hints so they will work properly. You will need a professional to uninstall and hopefully this will work and you want have to. But if you do, it requires shutting off the water to the unit. Shutting off the pwer to the unit. Unattaching the water lines to the unit and then unattaching the electric lines from the junction box or wherever they are attached. The heater then can be removed from the wall by unscrewing the screws from the hangers which hold it to the wall.

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It sounds like two problems.
Problem 1) Clog inside faucet or clog inside pipes at faucet
Remove supply tubes leading to faucet and see if problem is inside pipes or inside faucet.
My bet is clog inside faucet.

If you have galvanized pipe that meets copper pipe, this can be trouble spot.
Article on clogged water pipes at Inspectapedia:
http://www.inspectapedia.com/water/Water_Pipe_Clog_Repair_Guide.htm

Article on clogged pipes:
http://www.waterheaterrescue.com/pages/WHRpages/English/Troubleshooting/Tanklets/backflushing.html

Problem 2) Water heater leak ... you say tank valve is leaking? Is that cold-water shut-off valve? Or tank drain valve? Or TP valve?

If cold water shut-off is leaking, then replace shut off.

If tank drain valve is leaking, then check if plastic valve is cracked. If drain valve is cracked, then replace with a brass valve from Home Depot. If plastic valve breaks off, then use hammer and screwdriver to gently chip out the broken plastic valve. New valve threads need teflon tape to seal pipe. If valve is just dripping, then put garden-hose cap over end of valve and screw down tight.

If TP valve is leaking, then replace with same temperature and pressure rating.
New TP valve threads need teflon tape to seal pipe.

Problem 3) If pressure is low all over house:
Buy pressure gauge at hardware store that screws onto hose connection.

Test pressure on outdoor spigot.
Open faucet and check if pressure drops. This says if problem is inside pipes that enter house.

Test pressure on water heater drain valve.
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Remove hot water line leading from water heater and check pressure. This says if problem is where hot water leaves tank.
Read articles above about clogs inside water lines.


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2. Ask the customer to check to see if the burner indicator is continuously lit during operation.

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