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Anonymous Posted on Jun 25, 2013

Pool timer Sir, I have an intermatic pool timer that is rated for 120/240 volts. The pump is wired for and receiving 220v/40amp. However, the timer portion is rated for 120v. Do I need to get another timer that is rated for 220? The directions are rather ambiguous. Thanks for any help.

  • Hippy_dd Aug 19, 2017

    no you don't need to get another one, you only use one of the hot wires coming into the timer for the clock motor call me if you need further help. 865-888-1220 if no answer try again no msg pls.

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You have the T103 timer rated 120-240. The clock motor part of timer is 120Volt. This is a very versatile timer, but confusing for non-electrician and electrician alike.
Solve problem by converting timer from T103 to the 240V T104 by changing clock motor from 120V WG1570 to 240V WG1573.
Buy wg1573 clock motor at WW Grainger or drillspot etc.
Resources:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-Intermatic-clock-motor.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T104
This simple fix is intentionally designed by Intermatic so their timers are not only adaptable to all electrical needs, but also can be maintained to last 25 years by replacing clock motors and trippers as needed

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 13, 2009

SOURCE: How To Program An Intermatic PE15300 Pool Timer ?

1. Press PROG Key to cycle through menu options.
2. Press UP and DOWN arrow keys to change program settings.
3. Press ENTER key to save changes and exit programming mode.
4. Press ON/OFF keys to manually turn devices ON or OFF.

Please post back if additional info is needed

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  • Posted on Jun 13, 2009

SOURCE: Bought an Intermatic T104 Timer for a 120v pool

T104 series intermatic timers are 208/230/277 volt clocks, not 120. I believe you have the wrong model and need a T101 series instead.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 09, 2009

SOURCE: Changing Pool Timer

As long as you get a new timer that is 220/240v and is the same amperage or larger, you should be fine. Wiring would be the same.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 04, 2010

SOURCE: Turned off main circuit breaker for maintenance

OK .. first check the breaker in the main electrical panel, make certain that it is retset, then the breakers in the pool disconnect, making sure they are reset and feeding power to the pump. Oh just so there is no confusion. when resetting a breaker, press firmly to off , then back to on .. if the timer will opperate the clock dial , then it should be good with turning on the pump.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2010

SOURCE: hello i hooked up a t104 timer to a 220 pool pump

I assume it's an Intermatic T104. I believe this has a 230V motor, which is best for your application. Since you only have 2 hots and a ground I assume you're only switching one leg to the motor. That's why the timer won't run. It need 240V to run the motor. You need 5 wires. Two "hots" coming in, and two going out to the motor along with your equipment grounding conductior (green). This will disconnet all power to the pump when off. Pay attention that you put the two incoming leads on correct terminals which I believe is #1 and #3. That's because those terminals also power the clock. Then connect the motor to #2 and #4 which go to the motor. 1 closes to 2 and 3 closes to 4. The equipment grounding conductor connects to the GR terminal (Green)

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Intermittent Intermatic Pool Timer T40003RT3 The pool timer is 220v but only one 110v 20amp breaker in the breaker box to the pool equipment and when it is off the pump will not run in manual mode.

http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-Intermatic-control-centers.html

http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-control-centers-and-manuals.html#RT3

RT3 series has T104 240 volt timer -or- T103 120 volt timer, -plus- low voltage transformer for pool light.
The circuit breaker can be used for transformer, or another outlet or nearby light etc, or it can be used for a T103 120 volt timer.
To trace the wire back to breaker box.... open you main panel and start turning off breakers one at a time and label the panel.
See if you have single breaker or double breaker supplying power to pool equipment.
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Verify that the clock motor is 220v. On the posts where the supply wires (line) and pool motor wires (load) they should each have a post for each of their two wires. If you do not have four posts, this is NOT a 220v timer.
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Pool pump breaker tripping

1) Not likely the timer is problem, unless there was fire or overheating in timer box. Use nose and eyes to inspect for signs of high heat.

2) Eliminate timer as suspect:
Move wires on timer to test if timer relays have gone bad.
Move terminal 4 to terminal 3
Move terminal 2 to terminal 1
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html#T104

3) Check watt rating of Hayward pump, and voltage.
1Hp motor at 240Volt draws 8 amp, and can draw 6 to 8 times that amount when starting. Up to 100 feet, should be at least 12 gauge wire and double-pole 20 amp breaker. Over 100 feet, 10 gauge wire and 30 amp double-pole breaker is best.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html#motor

4) Intermatic T104 240V timer is rated 40 amps
Can safely handle 1 Hp motor without nearing heat-rating capacity of timer

5) Make sure the motor is wired correctly for 240Volts.
If motor is wired for 120, and 240 is applied, then tripped breaker can result.

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Manuals for pool timers

1) Copy following links for Intermatic pool timer manuals and wiring:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-timers-and-manuals.html#pool
http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#pool
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

2) Add a comment and describe timer in detail for possible additional resources

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No. I don't have a wiring schematic without knowing what voltage you are using, specifically what Intermatic timer you have, specifically what wires you have coming from breaker box, what wires are on the pump, and what pump rating plate says, what the wiring diagram shows on side of pump, whether you are wiring a 2-speed pump to a single-speed timer, specifically what is the polaris timer clock, and why this pump needs two timers if that's what you mean.
Add a comment with specific information so electrician is not guessing.
http://www.poolcenter.com/polaris-booster-install-OM.pdf

Open following link for 240Volt T104 timer wiring diagram.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
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http://waterheatertimer.org/Paragon-timers-and-manuals.html

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http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html

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http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-timers-and-manuals.html#pool

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http://waterheatertimer.org/Intermatic-trippers-and-parts.html#P1353
http://waterheatertimer.org/pdf/PE100-series-with-P1353-timer.pdf
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Sounds like 240Volt WG1573 clock motor has gone bad and needs replacement. But more checking is needed.

You posted under T2100-4R which is 60 amp Intermatic control panel with a single T104M 240Volt timer mechanism.
All Intermatic timer mechanisms can fit into same control center, so you can possibly have different timer mechanism inserted into the T2100-4R control center.
The control center can have up to 4 circuit breakers.
Instruction manual shows that timer can also have fireman's switch that is wired to pool heater and causes pool heater to turn off 20 minutes before pool pump turns off.
http://www.poolandspacontrols.com/products/mechanical%20controls/60%20amp%20pool%20and%20spa%20control%20panels.aspx

(1) First thing: If you have T104 mechanism, do a troubleshoot run-down to see if trippers, clock motor, or wiring are suspect:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-Intermatic-timer.html

(2) Next would be to check the circuit breakers for loose wires, burned connections, or the smell of burning or crackling sound that says breaker is loose on the busbar.

(3) Check for loose wiring on T104 and test circuit:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-T104-Intermatic-timer.html
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(b) Push manual override lever to to ON position and repeat test above. Both tests should show 240 volts.
If the test fails, then buy new T104M timer mechanism.

(4) If the T104 timer is turning off both lines in the 240Volt circuit, then pump cannot turn on since neither wire is Hot.
However if your T104 timer is actually a T101 timer or if timer has different wiring, where timer is turning off only 1 leg and not both legs of 240Volt circuit, then pump has one hot wire available and a short to ground could cause pump to turn on unexpectedly.
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The instructions are available from Intermatic if you click on the below link.

http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/files/intermatic/products/instructions/timers/t104%20-%20english.ashx

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