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Help with upgrading Dell Dimension 4600 GPU

So, I have A dell dimension 4600i. Recently My Graphics card has broken and I need a new one. I need to know which Good and Cheap Graphics card will be able to run on my PC. My Specs are: CPU - Intel Pentium 4, 2.8Ghz RAM - 1.5GB DDR1 CL3 Motherboard - Dell Dimension 4600i GPU - Intel 82865G Graphics Controller OLD GPU - nVidia Geforce FX 5200 OS - Windows XP SP3 Home Edition

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  • Dell Master
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June,

The Dell Dimension 4100 Desktop PC, utilizes an AGP slot on the motherboard, for a graphics card.

http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/p/17152514/17275500.aspx

There are different styles of AGP expansion slots.
The one on your motherboard was the last current style of AGP -

AGP 8X

Therefore your Dimension 4100 uses an AGP 8X graphics card.
It is (Was) an Nvidia GeForce FX5200 graphics card, and the AGP 8X style.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGP

To replace it just use a graphics card that is AGP 8X, and is better, or equivalent to the GeForce FX5200.

You also need to know that your Power Supply in your computer, will handle the power requirements for the computer system, AND your new found AGP 8X graphics card.

Power Supply was rated, at a maximum Wattage rating of 200 Watts.
Problem is; that back in the day when the Dimension 4100 was made, the Power Supply manufacturer 'Fudged' the real Wattage specifications.

Power was (Is) more like 60 to 70 percent of what is stated.
Divide 200 Watts by 10
= 20
Now take that times 6, for 60 percent.
= 120 Watts
Now take that times 70, for 70 percent.
= 140 Watts
ACTUAL power

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4410189&CatId=2234

I would recommend this one, but it requires 250 Watts MINIMUM,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=853908&CatId=2234

[Graphics card manufacturers, base the Minimum power requirements for their graphics cards; based on a test computer system.

So the Minimum power requirement stated, is not only for the graphics card; but ALSO the rest of the computer.
The test computer system is usually based, on all of the top of the line, power consuming hardware components; of that time

Top of the line powerful Processors, and Motherboards.
Add to that the maximum amount of Ram Memory, that can be used.
Two optical drives, (CD/DVD drive)
Processor fan, and at least two computer case fans ]

KNOW THIS:

A) FOLLOW Anti-Static Procedures

Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit), the delicate hardware components inside a computer.

Relieve your body of Static BEFORE reaching inside your computer, and BEFORE taking any new parts out of their Anti-Static bags, or cartons.

Computer on a table, computer Unplugged from power, computer case open;
TOUCH an unpainted surface, of the metal frame of the open computer case.
This action will relieve your body of Static.

IF, you leave your computer in the middle of working on it, be SURE to Touch the metal frame again upon your return

B) Windows running on your computer, PUT the Installation disk that comes with the graphics card, in your optical drive tray.
(CD/DVD drive)
Install ALL software.

There will be Drivers you are installing, and also a graphical user interface. (GUI)
The GUI for an Nvidia graphics card, (Evga GeForce 6200 is an Nvidia card), is the Nvidia Control Panel.

(For ATI it's Catalyst Control Center)

Driver: Small piece of software that allows the Operating System to communicate with a device

In this case the device is the graphics card.
What version of Windows operating system was not stated.

-> AFTER <- you have installed the software, and if it asks you do you wish to restart your computer; the answer is -> NO

Close all windows, go back to your desktop screen.
Now turn the computer off normally.

Follow Anti-Static Procedures, and Physically install the graphics card.
Note*
The AGP expansion slot on the motherboard, will have a type of Locking Arm on it. With most the end of the arm, has a 'fingerdip' in it.
Makes it look as though you press DOWN, on the end of the Locking Arm, in order to release it. (Unlock)

Actually you GENTLY pull up a little on the PLASTIC Locking Arm, to release it.
Release to remove the old graphics card, and to install the new one.

After the new graphics card is installed, attach the monitor cable to it, and close the computer case.
Turn the computer on.

You MAY have to go into the Nvidia Control Panel, and set Screen resolution, and other parameters.

(Look up your monitor by it's manufacturer name, and model number. {Back of monitor - Model Number}
See what the Screen resolution is.
Example - 1280 x 800 pixels

Set Color quality to High (32 bit)

Have additional questions please post in a Comment, or Reply.
(Below my solution)

[When a device is installed on a computer with Windows, Windows will 'break it's neck' to find suitable, matching drivers.

If THE drivers are not there, Windows will match up one of it's THOUSANDS of generic drivers.
This = NO
A Driver Conflict can result.

Windows: "Which drivers do I use? These or THESE?"

With THE drivers installed first, Windows will find them.

Posted on May 06, 2013

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joecoolvette
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SOURCE: I have a dell dimension 4600i. I want to upgrade

The Dell N2828 motherboard is supposed to have the Intel 865PE motherboard chipset on it.

http://www.ascendtech.us/itemdesc.asp?ic=MB4DEL2Y832&eq=&Tp

Looking at the - List of Intel Chipsets - on Wikipedia, we can see that the maximum FSB supported is 800MHz,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_Chipsets

[Scroll down with your eyes to 865PE, then read across ]
Dell Support lists that the Dell Dimension 4600 series, can have either the Intel 845G motherboard chipset, or the Intel 845PE motherboard chipset.

As seen in the chart the Intel 865G motherboard chipset, also supports up to an 800MegaHertz Front Side Bus.

The processor socket is a Socket 478.

I see that Weirdstuff.com, (Surplus warehouse) has Pentium 4's available with an 800MHz FSB.

Looks like the best they have is a Pentium 4 at 2.60GHz, 512MB cache, 800MHz FSB for $18.95 (US. They're located in California)

Not advertising for them, just sharing,

http://www.weirdstuff.com/cgi-bin/category/CPU000

Scroll way down the list to the heading - Socket 423/478 (Pentium 4/Celeron), then go towards the last of the list.

[To expound:
The motherboard chipset is the Northbridge/Southbridge chipset.

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C., or Integrated Circuit.

This motherboard diagram, may help explain how the motherboard chipset comes into play,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

You can also look up the terms listed, by typing them into the Wikipedia search box, then clicking on Search.

You may be interested in looking up;

1) Northbridge (computing)
2) Southbridge (computing)
3) Front Side Bus
4) Internal Bus
5) Super I/O
6) Comparison of Nvidia Chipsets
7) Comparison of AMD chipsets
8) SDRAM
9) PCI Local Bus
10) PCI Express
11) GPU
12) Comparison of AMD graphics processing units
13) Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units
14) Intel GMA ]

Anything listed in blue, is a link to more information about it. Just left-click on it.

As you can see in the chart, the Northbridge chip handles the high speed processes of a computer.
Such as the Processor, Ram Memory, and high speed graphics.

AGP and PCI Express being high speed graphics. Any graphics card inserted into a PCI slot is Not high speed graphics.

The Southbridge chip handles the slower processes of a computer.
Anything to do with PCI, or Integrated Graphics, being two of the slower processes.

Therefore if you know what Northbridge chip you have on the motherboard, and what processor socket, you are pretty well on your way to know what processors your motherboard supports.

The Northbridge chip is under that 'meat cleaver' looking heatsink next to the processor socket.

If the heatsink were removed, and any thermal paste also removed, you would see - Intel 82865PE stamped on it.

Not a good idea to remove the heatsink, without having fresh thermal paste to replace the old thermal paste with, PLUS the top of the Northbridge chip, And the bottom of the heatsink needs to be THOROUGHLY cleaned Before applying new, fresh thermal paste.

The Southbridge chip has Intel ICH5, or ICH5R on it.

Posted on Apr 28, 2010

joecoolvette
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SOURCE: Will a NVIDIA GeForce gt 610 graphics processor work on a Dell Dimension 2400 PC Desktop

YES, Zian it will work....BUT,....................

1) It is a PCI graphics card, and uses a PCI expansion slot.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2898922&CatId=319

The Dell Dimension 2400 Desktop PC's motherboard, has three long white PCI slots,

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/techov.htm#1105465

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Dimension-2400-Desktop-Motherboard-System-Main-Board-F5949-K5148-G1548-/190750417467?pt=Motherboards&hash=item2c699c623b

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_PCI

If one of those long white PCI slots is open, you can use a PCI graphics card.

Concerned that the graphics card uses DDR3 graphics memory, and your computer only uses DDR Sdram ram memory?

Don't be.

The graphics card has it's own processor (Graphics Processing Unit), and graphics memory.
It runs independent of the system resources; the Processor and Ram Memory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

The concern is the Power Supply.
Original power supply's maximum rated Wattage is either 200 Watts, or 250 Watts.

The above graphics card requires a minimum system requirement/power supply requirement; of 300 Watts.

I would recommend replacing the Power Supply.
(Especially with it's age, if it is still the same one)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1389575&CatId=1078

ONE thing though..............
Watch the 20-pin ATX main power cable connector, and the wires in it. Be sure they are in the standard place setup.

Check the pinout, and color code of the wires,

1) Dell Dimension 2400 desktop computer, 20-pin ATX main power cable connector pinout,

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim2400/en/sm_en/techov.htm#1105612

2) STANDARD 20-pin ATX main cable connector pinout, and color code of wires; as set by JEDEC,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#atxmain20

[Be aware that the ATX main power cable, and connector, you get with a new power supply; such as the above, will have a 20 =4-pin ATX main power cable connector,

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#atxmain20plus4

Use the 20-pin connector, tie the 4-pin power cable up out of the way]

For a time period Dell was making the motherboard's main power cable connector - Proprietary.
Meaning they has that motherboard connector wire pinout changed.
Colors of wires were in a different place, than the standard setup by JEDEC.

Orange wires are 3.3 Volts (DC)
Red wires are 5 Volts (DC)
Yellow wires are 12 Volts (DC)
Black wires are Ground wires.

Guess what happens if a 12 Volt Yellow wire, is plugged into where a Black Ground wire is supposed to be?

ZZZZZZzzzzt! Motherboard fries, processor fries, ram memory fries, and graphics card. (If used)

Check the color code of the wires, in the 20-pin ATX main power cable's CONNECTOR, for the Dimension 2400's power supply.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Posted on Nov 14, 2012

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SOURCE: dell dimension 4600 problem with nvidia gforce fx 5200 card

Very broad problem. You can re-seat card, or use a different slot if possible. You can test card on another PC. You can wipe PC and do a clean install. This may be the surest way to determine if the the card is bad or driver conflict with OS.

Posted on Nov 22, 2012

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