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Wheelhorse 314 engines dies when pto is engaged

Seat switch is jumped, enigine will not start with key has to be jumped at solenoid but starts great. pto is engaged and engine dies. found 2 wires corroded and spliced together now the dash warning lights all light up but oil light keeps blinking. Why does the pto kill the engine? Thanks for the help

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I am assuming you have a manual PTO clutch since you did not mention a PTO switch. The starting circuit generally is a series of switches wired in line (series) with each other. You have bypassed the seat but there is usually a switch for neutral, PTO, oil level, and clutch. You will need to trace the wires from one to the other to find the problem. If the seat has a double switch (3 or 4 wires) it is wired through the PTO switch which may be a double switch to short out the ignition so that part of the circuit should stay open to operate. If the oil level is ok and the oil has been changed as recommended you may better consult a Wheelhorse service person. Bypassing the switches is for testing only! I DO NOT RECOMEND LEAVING ANY SAFETY SWITCH BYPASSED. Any defective or out of adjustment switch should be replaced or corrected.

Posted on Feb 04, 2015

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If it is cranking over it should start. If you are just jumping the solenoid then you have a switch problem.If it is just plain not starting then you need a complete tuneup. It a process of elimination, you need air, gas, and a spark. Then it will run.donnyb60

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SOURCE: craftsman model 917.272950 lawn tractor won't start

OPERATOR PRESENCE SYSTEM
Be sure operator presence and interlock
systems are working properly, If your
tractor does not function as described,
repair the problem immediately.
• The engine should not start unless the
clutch/brake pedal is fully depressed
and attachement clutch control is in the
disengaged position.
• When the engine is running, any
attempt by the operator to leave the
seat without first setting the parking
brake should shut off the engine.
• When the engine is running and the
attachment clutch is engaged, any
attempt by the operator to leave the
seat should shut off the engine.
• The attachment clutch should never
operate unless the operator is in the
seat.

Check your seat switch and clutch switch wires be sure that the connection to each switch is making contact and the mechanism that activates the switch is actually activateing them in other words be sure the clutch is pushing the switch in and your seat switch is occupied and be sure all grounding wires a intack
especially from your battery negative to the frame.You also could have a neutral safety switch which requires your transmission to be in neural.
try these things and let us know how we can further help from more of your input.

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you may hav a bad alt. problem with the mower dying when you engage the pto is most likley a bad sensor or wire unplugged on the seat sensor.the way it works is if the blades are turning and it dosent sense you being on the seat the mower shuts down.this has been standard on mowers for quite a few years now. it keeps the blades from cutting you up if you fall off the seat while mowing. as for charging i would try cleaning the battery connections and get the battery checked first.

Posted on Jul 19, 2009

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SOURCE: When I engage the front PTO the engine dies.

There is somthing in the PTO that is binding up. I am assuming the PTO is for the mower blades. The belt(s) could be binding up, not on the pulleys, etc. The blades should turn by hand easily.

Posted on Oct 14, 2009

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Check and adjust your RIO switch{reverse implement option}near the trans if so equipped.What happens when you press forward pedal then engage blades?Would also check the lower bearing on your pto clutch to see if its seized up.

Posted on Nov 14, 2009

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