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Frigidaire freezer Model No. FFU14FK1CWO leaks water on floor

Our freezer is a frost free model, apparently without a defrost drain. Periodically, ice will accumulate in the bottom of the freezer and water will overflow out of the front when the freezer goes into automatic defrost.

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  • pro29 Mar 12, 2009

    I see no evaporation pan under the freezer. Does the water just drain out on the floor anyway?

  • pro29 Mar 12, 2009

    I see no evaporation pan beneath the freezer. Does the water just drain out on the floor anyway?

  • pro29 Mar 12, 2009

    I have removed all ice from the bottom of the freezer and there is NO DRAIN! in the bottom of the freezer compartment.

  • pro29 Mar 12, 2009

    I have a parts catalog. It does show a drain tube at bottom, front left. If it is there, it is inside the refrigerator walls.

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There should be a drip pan installed.
your defost moisture will continue to drip onto the floor without the drip pan installed.
it rarely has to be emptied because it will evaporate in a few days.
an abundance of water is indicative of an improper seal, defrost timer, or faulty thermostat.

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For an overall understanding of how refrigerators should work, read about refrigerators in the How Things Work section of our website. A refrigerator or freezer that is cooling, but cooling poorly, may have a problem in one of several areas:

Evaporator coils
Condenser
Poor cooling is often the result of a heavy frost build-up on the evaporator coils or a condenser that is clogged with dust, lint, and dirt. 

Evaporator coils Poor cooling is often the result of a heavy frost build-up on the evaporator coils. You can't see these coils without removing a panel on the inside of your freezer. A sure sign that there is a build-up is the presence of any frost or ice build-up on the inside walls, floor, or ceiling of the freezer. Such a frost build-up usually indicates a problem in the self-defrosting system or damaged door gaskets.

The refrigerator is supposed to self-defrost approximately four times in every 24 hour period. If one of the components in the self-defrosting system fails, the refrigerator continues to try to cool. Eventually, though, so much frost builds up on the evaporator coils that the circulating fan can't draw air over the coils. There may still be a small amount of cooling because the coils are icy, but with no air flow over the coils, cooling in the refrigerator compartment is quite limited.

Here's an inexpensive, though inconvenient, way to determine if the problem is with the self-defrosting system. Remove all of the perishable food from the refrigerator and freezer, turn the thermostat in the refrigerator to Off, and leave the doors open for 24 to 48 hours. (Be sure to have several towels ready in case the melting frost and ice causes the drip pan to overflow). This allows the refrigerator to defrost "manually." When the frost and ice build-up has completely melted away, turn the thermostat back to a normal setting. If the refrigerator then cools properly, it indicates a problem with one of three components in the self-defrosting system:

  • The defrost timer


  • The defrost thermostat (also called the bi-metal switch)


  • The defrost heater


If it still does not cool properly, there may be a problem with the refrigerant level or the compressor. You may need to consult with a qualified appliance repair technician to further diagnose the problem 

Condenser Self-defrosting refrigerators all have a set of coils and a cooling fan, usually under the refrigerator, that need to be cleaned regularly. If these coils get coated with dust, dirt or lint, the refrigerator may not cool properly. The coils may appear to be a thin, black, wide radiator-like device behind the lower kick-panel. To clean them, disconnect the refrigerator from the power source, use a refrigerator condenser brush (see the Appliance Accessories section) and your vacuum cleaner to clean the coils of any lint, pet hair, etc. You may not be able to get to all of the condenser from the front, it may be necessary to clean the remainder of the condenser from the rear of the refrigerator. 

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Hi, if you have a humidity control switch, i would set it at a lower setting. also, check the level of the fridge to make sure its not leaning forward. even the slightest lean one way or the other will direct the water flow away from the proper draining hose. An unbalanced fridge will also not allow the door seal to properly do its job as well. this will increase the frost build up. I think your fridge may be slightly of the level mark at this moment, pushing the water to the front.

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Here is a link to the Manufactors product information sheet, it covers both with and without the drain plug.

Hope this helps...

ftp://ftp.electrolux-na.com/ProdInfo_PDF/StCloud/297245700en.pdf

If so please rate my solution accordingly.


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Do me a favor....call the professionals....

Here's the number!

U.S.A.
1 (800) 374-4432
Monday - Friday
9:00 am - 5:30 pm EST

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    Call the professionals...here is their number and they WILL help you!





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The drain hose is part 29 on the diagram below:

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Try also setting thermostat to lower settings, if the fridge continues icing up on all condition you may have a slightly defective thermostat.
Check also that the door gasket is sealing well the door when the door is closed.

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See the drain outlet and the drain pan at the lower back of the machine

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    micromaster Mar 12, 2009

    The
    drain ports are located along the bottom of both the freezer and the
    refrigerator sections of the unit. These holes can become clogged with
    debris or ice, causing a drainage problem when the unit is defrosting.
    To clear the ports, use a short section of wire that will fit the
    holes. Do not use a toothpick, because the wood may break off in the
    port and become stuck. On some refrigerators, the drain ports are
    located near the defrost heater at the evaporator coils. A lot of
    disassembly is required to clean this type of unit. If the refrigerator
    or freezer is this type, you may be better off calling a professional
    service person to clear the ports.

    On some freezer compartments,
    the drain is located under the freezer compartment and shaped like a
    shoehorn. This type of drain can usually be unscrewed so that the drain
    area can be cleaned.


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    micromaster Mar 12, 2009

    check the
    drain hose for cracked, causing leaks. Examine the hose. If it's damaged, replace it
    with a new one of the same type. If you spot water on the floor, the
    drain pan may be tipped on its brackets, or the pan may be cracked or
    rusted. To eliminate the leak, realign or replace the pan.


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Most/many times this is a clogged up or restricted defrost drain system, but once in a while the drain system has been cleaned and everything appears to be good but you still get ice in the defrost drip tray and such and the drain freezes over.
as repair kits are available in the market for this problem
http://www.applianceaid.com/defrost_drain_freezes.html
click the link and get the repair kit.

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There should be some clog on the pipe.

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  • remoteserver Mar 12, 2009

    chane out the drain pipe, and see if it works......


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All have drains something is blocking yours or its frozen should be a white plastic if you look in the slot center at the bottom of the back panel take hot water and pour there till you see a white disc with holes in it clear that

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Replace the defrost realy and maybe the timer as well, it is one of those 2, the relay is the most common and cheap to buy.

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    yadayada Mar 12, 2009

    that is defrost relay, not realy

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All self self defrosting models have a drain (even modern manual defrosting of larger size have drains). I suspect yours may have ice covering the drain and maybe something else. I have seen price tags (back when they were used) small tags and some plastic that came off frozen food plug the drains. And even gunk from the refrigerator side can find its way into the drain maybe even egg shells. Take some warm water and pour in the drain pan (in the freezer compartment usually under the back panel on bottom) and let it set over night with the freezer off and the door open or start this one morning early and within 6 hours if you leave the door open and have a fan to force room air into the freezer most of the time the ice will thaw and your drain will be open. Now after you have lost this initial deposit of water pour some more and see if it goes down the drain. you may be able to hear it come out into a pan underneath. If it comes out the sides or front the drain line is loose or torn apart and you will have to remove the pan to see what needs fixing then.

Hope this is clear and helps please rate me accordingly and Good luck

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    Farley Redfield Mar 12, 2009

    All self self defrosting models have a drain (even modern manual
    defrosting of larger size have drains). I suspect yours may have ice
    covering the drain and maybe something else. I have seen price tags
    (back when they were used) small tags and some plastic that came off
    frozen food plug the drains. And even gunk from the refrigerator side
    can find its way into the drain maybe even egg shells. Take some warm
    water and pour in the drain pan (in the freezer compartment usually
    under the back panel on bottom) and let it set over night with the
    freezer off and the door open or start this one morning early and
    within 6 hours if you leave the door open and have a fan to force room
    air into the freezer most of the time the ice will thaw and your drain
    will be open. Now after you have lost this initial deposit of water
    pour some more and see if it goes down the drain. you may be able to
    hear it come out into a pan underneath. If it comes out the sides or
    front the drain line is loose or torn apart and you will have to remove
    the pan to see what needs fixing then.



    Hope this is clear and helps please rate me accordingly and Good luck

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    Farley Redfield Mar 12, 2009

    Your freezer is that JUST a freezer? and the shelves do not get frost on them and require defrosting? Then it has to have a drain hole and its stopped up. Take some water and pour in the drain pan see if it goes down it could be frozen over or a paper tag or something stopping ti up. Or it could be stopped up from the outside. If the water disappears the drain is open if there is Ice at the bottom back (might be raised up some off the back floor not in the floor necessarily)

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