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I have a potable generator that will not turn off.it's a 16.5 briggs vanguard v-twin motor.i replaced the coils and the diode wiring assembly.i fill the diode assembly might be backwards.is that possible?

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Are you saying the engine will not turn off? The engine shut down uses a ground on the ignition circuit to shut down. This kills the circuit that provides the spark for the engine to run. See if you can trace the circuit for the shut down and check the ground connection.

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