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Gateway 610x has flaky video.

By Melissa - usenet poster


Not mine, someone I'm trying to help out. He can't swap in another VGA
because there's no VGA output connector. (He's not lying. I looked it
up!)

But
#
says it uses an AGP video card. Could there perhaps be some way?

Thanks in advance.

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posted on Aug 02, 2007
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Horner

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What your friend owns is basically a non-portable notebook computer system.
The specs. I found state that the graphics are Radeon 9200 AGP with 128MB of
dedicated RAM (from memory, don't kill me if I got that wrong). Other
specs. I found state that this graphics solution is a custom ATI solution.
I read that as, "we used a notebook mainboard to pack a PC into the case of
an LCD monitor". Not a bad idea as long as it works OK. But how do you
repair it?

There is no good way to deal with faulty video on this unit, I'm afraid.
AGP refers to the bus used, NOT a graphics card expansion slot. I would be
shocked to discover that this 610X beast has an actual AGP graphics card
expansion slot. BUT WAIT! There's another problem. The specs. I found
state that the beast has a proprietary, ***160W*** power supply (yikes, I'm
surprised a P4 processor will even boot with that!). So even in the HIGHLY
UNLIKELY event that the graphics card could be replaced, you'd have to
somehow replace a non-replaceable power supply, as well!!! No video card
that's not built-into a mainboard (ie, notebook style) is going to run off
of a 160W power supply. Most AGP video cards specify 300W, MINIMUM, or
greater.

There's another fly in the ointment. As this is an all-in-one type of box,
the problem could be in the LCD display circuitry. So...the graphics card
you can't replace would require a new power supply which you can't replace,
only to discover that after you've jumped through all those hoops, you might
be back where you started. (shit!)

You've got two choices:
1) Assuming that the pc is out of warranty, you can pay gateway hundreds of
dollars to fix it. It can not be repaired by anybody who is not a gateway
authorized service center, due to all the proprietary parts used to build
the thing. I don't suggest you choose this route, as the repair cost would
likely GREATLY exceed the purchase price of a whole new computer system and
monitor with better specifications. Even if you get the problem diagnosed
(not fixed), the diagnosis alone would likely cost about half as much as a
whole new computer system plus monitor.

2) Buy a cheap PC and monitor to replace the whole thing. I've read of
some fantastic deals lately on Windows XP systems, because Vista was just
released.

Of course, all of what I write above could be wrong, and maybe there is an
easy fix that I've overlooked. I don't think so, though. -Dave

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Solution #2
posted on Aug 02, 2007
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M0nica L

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#

610XL, 610X, 610S, 610XL, 610S, 610X, 610XL

A manual:
#

The thing is an all-in-one computer. If it has a video
subsystem, it could be on a separate module inside
the unit, but more likely the video chip could be soldered
to the main board. I found seven different model numbers,
and perhaps there are construction differences between them.

Actually, your web page said "AGP Graphics card: Custom ATI solution"
implying the thing is not an established standard. Which means
it cannot be replaced with an off-the-shelf unit.

Having worked on another brand, something similar to this,
in that case they were using the Northbridge built-in
graphics (865G), and there was no AGP slot. So your options
are limited. The unit has its "Svideo" output, but that
is almost useless for computer use. You won't be able to read
text, unless the font is very large.

If you look in Device Manager, or use a program like Everest,
you may get a better idea of what hardware is inside it. I
assume it is still working ?

# (Everest download)

The following device, provides a frame buffer via a USB port.
It is a USB to VGA adapter. With the speed of a USB port,
and the probable lack of hardware acceleration in this device,
this will likely have the performance of video from 20 years
ago. But it is an alternative if your screen is broken. Using
the warranty is also an alternative, if the problem is supported
by the warranty.

#

Paul

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Solution #3
posted on Aug 25, 2007
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The above post by Horner/Dave was not correct at all. The AGP video card inside these Gateway 610s is a fairly standard AGP video card that simply has not bracket but does have a DVI interface connector directly on it. The DVI is then connected with a special right angle DVI cable. These should be able to be replaced with ease, if you consider taking the actual Gateway 610 apart is really not that easy.

They motherboard is a proprietary one, although it is not a notebook motherboard. It is most similar to a desktop motherboard.
Good Luck!

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Solution #4
posted on May 27, 2008
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dougfar


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I have a 610 s media center. I have replaced two power sources. The next one will be a 300 watt external source. I am currently having the blinking screen problems. I have taken the radeon video card and the aver media card out and put them back in the slots. This cured the problem for a while. Now the monitor is not getting a signal. I have also expanded the ram to 2 gig. Thes computers do not cool properly. Warmer climate will really shorten their life. The next step for me is to replace the video card. There are instructions available on the web to take this computer apart. If you do this have patients.

Doug

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Solution #5
posted on Jul 24, 2008
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I have just started to have various issues with my 610. If you've tried to get support from Gateway/MPC, you'll know that it's futile. You're on your own. Here is a great link for dismantling the mediacenter: http://www.32oz.com/mirror/Gateway_610/ Here is a link for parts: http://www.skyline-eng.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/category.display/category_ID/5896 I'm not so certain they aren't used parts. My power supply arrived scratched with some of the screw mounts bent. You'll have to ask them before buying.

Anyhow, my issues started with the power supply. It should have been recalled by Gateway but they obviously chose cost savings over quality. Last Gateway I ever buy. Skyline does sell the updated power supply. If your power supply is bad, the PC turns off randomly. I truly think it was worse in hot conditions.

Once I replaced the power supply, it worked fine for a day. Starting this past Tuesday, the PC will now not "boot up." I assume it's not a bios or HD issue because I can't see anything. It's likely booting up but I can't tell. Eventually the screen says to "No Signal" then disappears. I'm guessing it's a loose connection or the video card is bad. I'll now have to dismantle to LCD case to find out.

If you're not computer savvy, don't try to work on this PC. It'll cost you more then a new PC. I've been doing PC support for 12+ years and I'm finding this thing troublesome. There are some pieces of metal that will slice right through your fingers.

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Solution #6
posted on May 27, 2008
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Hey...I've tried replacing the Radeon 9200 with a GeForce 7300GT AGP, and replaced the powersupply unit with a 450W one...But the LCD dint seem to display it properly,,without being able to get native resolution of 1280 x 768 only 1280 x 720 (max)..But now my LCD just stoped working just like dougfar said above...it's really amazin that he has the same prob as me and on the same day....pls temme if u make any progress dougfar...i was able to fix Geforce in this machine and get to install Vista(aero)..but the flickering problem started some time back and now ended with no Signal for the LCD...Do u have a solution..It's getting really tedious opening this machine every now and then for the flicker prob...The GFX card is perfect (tried both Radeon and Geforce)the Dvi Cable is ok...The monitor is displayin "NO SIGNAL" in mins after boot(so nothing wrong with LCD) so why is the Display not Displaying?Any Clue?

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