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Broken power port (dc jack)

I tripped over the cat, bumped my laptop and it fell off the coffee table. It landed on the side that has where the AC power adapter fits into the DC jack (hole) and it broke the DC jack on the inside of the laptop case. I'm trying to open the laptop up to get to the power port to assess the damage but the repair manual pdf doesn't explain how to get to it. It says to remove the middle cover but doesn't say how to do this. I've tried to pry it up but something is holding it there and I don't want to force it as I would probably have to replace two broken pieces instead of one. Do I have to go a different way then removing the keyboard? Do I need to remove the back cover instead?

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Whenever I replace dc jacks, MAJORITY of the time the entire computer needs to be taken apart down to the motherboard.

Usually I just remove every screw that I see and then carefully start to pry pieces off the laptop. Don't force anything though, everything should come apart with minimal effort, as long as the screws are out.

If you're going to attempt this repair yourself you're gonna need to set aside about two hours to complete it.

You'll need:

a soldering gun
solder
solder wick

Make sure you have a big, flat, clean workspace to work on.

If you have a camera it might help to take pictures along the way. At the very least keep track of where the screws go.

I usually separate them into two categories: outside the laptop and inside the laptop.

It's not the easiest thing to repair for the home user but you can do it if you've got the patience.

Hope this helps.

Best of luck!


Hope this info helps.

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My laptop charging port is not working problem. I have to wiggle it about and selotape it into place for the computer to charge. What do you think is the most likely cause the port its self or the charger?


I think it is because of the loose dc jack. So
You need to get the DC Power Jack Either Repaired or replaced...this is the "female" port where your AC Power cord plugs into.. To Repair the current DC Jack...First you'll need to look closely at the Positive posts to see that they are not broken.. If visibally ok.. then you can look at the Solder Connections.. they will need to first be Desoldered.. Cleaned, then Resoldered back in place....
http://www.chargerbuy.com/laptop-ac-adapter/samsung-compatibility.html

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Charging light wont come on


A) AC adapter (Charger) is bad.
Use a multimeter, and check it out.

[ DC Voltage.
Test plug of cable that plugs into laptop.
Positive (Red) probe lead of multimeter, to Center Hole of plug on AC adapter.
Negative (Black) probe lead touches outside cylindrical metal shell.
You should read close to 19.5 Volts (DC) ]

AC adapter checks out OK?

B) DC Power Jack is bad

[The DC Power Jack is the port on the laptop, that the AC adapter plugs into. On laptop may be marked DC_IN ]

Damage to DC Power Jack prevents laptop from charging, or running strictly off of the AC adapter.

Battery removed take a No.2 pencil's eraser, and see if you can gently move the Center Pin, of the DC Power Jack.
ANY perceptible movement means replacement of the DC Power Jack.

The pin itself may not move, and the entire jack moves.
The good news is the DC Power Jack is not soldered to the motherboard.
It is soldered to a separate, therefore replaceable, small circuit board,

http://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=item&id=3698

Click to enlarge. In the photo the DC Power Jack is at the back on the right.
This is is what the DC Power Jack, looks like not installed on that small circuit board,

http://www.elept.com/dc-power-jack-for-dell-inspiron-xps-m140-m1710-m1210-m2010_p2971.html

Looking at the view on the right, note the pins sticking out.
You are looking at the back view, and the jack is laying on it's side.
The pins go through the laptop's motherboard, and are soldered to the motherboard.

Where the pins are soldered to the motherboard is a solder connection. Commonly referred to as a Solder Joint.

Plugging in, and missing the hole of the jack, can cause the AC adapter plug to damage the DC Power Jack, by bumping into it.

Bumping into the plug of the AC adapter, while plugged into the DC Power jack, can cause damage to the jack.

Can cause cracking of the above mentioned solder joints. This leads to an intermittent contact, and eventually no contact, of the DC Power Jack TO the motherboard.

In this case the solder joints are just re-soldered.

Damage to the body of the jack itself means replacement of the DC Power Jack, or replacement of the USB/DC Power Jack circuit board, itself.

(Unless you, or an acquaintance can un-solder, and solder real well, the option may be to just replace the USB/DC Power Jack circuit board)

DC Power Jack proves to be OK?

Problem is one, or more Power MOSFETs on the motherboard.
These determine if the Battery needs a trickle charge, or a full charge, or no charge at all.
Also determines if the laptop is to just run off of the AC adapter, and not the Battery.

This example is for HP Pavilion dv6000 and Pavilion dv9000 series of Notebook PC's. You can use it for cross-reference information.
(Location of the Power MOSFETs on your laptop's motherboard. General idea of what they look like ),

http://mayohardware.blogspot.com/2010/04/important-parts-on-dv6000-and-dv9000.html

What? Looks like motherboard replacement to you?
OK
Let's price a Fairchild Semiconductor International - FDS6679 - Power MOSFET,

http://www.mouser.com/Search/Refine.aspx?Keyword=FDS6679

If you buy one the cost is $1.01 USD

Look to see if the Power MOSFET/s are burned. Blackened, bubbled, or blistered.

There is one more small component, that if bad will produce the same results;
Ceramic Capacitors.

Look back at the Mayohardware blog. Look at the second photo down with the AO4407 Power MOSFET circled in Yellow.

Note the small rectangular shape to the immediate right, that has the wide dark band on it. There is one above it, one above that, and one to the right of the top one.

See if any of these, (No matter what the size. Look at all of them), are burned. Blackened, bubbled, or blistered.

http://www.mouser.com/Passive-Components/Capacitors/Ceramic-Capacitors/Multilayer-Ceramic-Capacitors-MLCC-SMD-SMT/_/N-b2cj?P=1z0wquyZ1z0t6fg

NOT stating these are ones to use. Just showing average cost.
.42 to .76 cents USD. Approximately a half dollar to three-quarters of a dollar.

Motherboard?

Average example,

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron-M140-Motherboard-HC425/dp/B001155N0U


$200 USD

Average example of the -> package type of the Power MOSFETs used,

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:oER5NNz8cwcJ:www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/FD/FDS6675BZ.pdf+Fairchild+FDS6675BZ&hl=en&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShOhWPjm_M-ROHme4iEMrztCTOd-28jNiy1hVLQQh_VOyv8zcXEVDB_iTQA6MuZO88UmRkDgjyW9j4CP2aIJ-4DS-h6JNM3lvxldeApQeecmz_DADCw1s7tmNLxfPknqX14SZP6&sig=AHIEtbS_rYUAeo_8rB9YHkW05ZjLqeH4Jg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uiroWBkdFY&feature=fvwrel

You don't need a Soldering Station. A low Wattage soldering iron, and that tip.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/xps140M/en/sm/index.htm

Regards,
joecoolvette

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Broken power plugin port


The power plug in port you refer to is the DC Power Jack.

The AC adapter (Charger) converts AC electricity into DC electricity.
DC electricity has two poles. Positive, and Negative.
(Just like on a D cell flashlight battery)

The center pin of the DC Power Jack is the Positive connection.
The outer metal spring-like pieces, on the inside of the cylindrical shape surrounding the center pin, are the Negative connection.
(The pieces of spring-like metal, all connect to the Negative connection in the DC Power Jack)

Example of a replacement DC Power Jack, for the Asus Eee PC 1005HA Netbook,

http://www.batterysupport.com/asus-eee-pc-1005ha-jack-p-303527.html

[ Note*
Cannot agree with the replacement instructions they offer, at the bottom of the page.
Not everyone has access to a hot-air gun. A 25 Watt soldering iron, and Desoldering Braid, is better, and more easily accessed ]

A few articles dealing with replacement of a DC Power Jack,

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2007/12/06/dc-power-jack-repair-guide/

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2006/01/28/toshiba-satellite-m35x-a75-power-jack-problem/

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2006/05/27/failed-laptop-power-jack-workaround/

1) Remove ALL power. Remove the AC adapter, (Charger), and Battery.
2) Observe Anti-Static Precautions. Buy, and use an ESD wrist strap.
Electro Static Discharge.

(Average cost is from $3 to $6. Connect the alligator clip to a good ground source.
I connect to an unpainted surface, of the metal frame of an open, empty desktop computer case.

If you wish to proceed in replacing your DC Power Jack, and need guidance, post back in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

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The DC Jack is the socket into which the power cable plugs into your notebook. If it has come loose the the solder points connecting the jack to the motherboard have broken contact and that is why the notebook is not charging. A loose DC jack is not suitable for DIY repair unless you are experienced in internal notebook repairs and have all the right equipment.
The only way to get this fault repaired is for a professional notebook repair technician to completely disassemble the notebook and then either re-solder the original jack back into place or install and solder in a new replacement jack before reassembling the notebook. Because of the skill and time it takes to disassemble repair and reassemble a notebook, repairing a loose DC jack can be expensive, but if you look around you should be able to find an experienced notebook repair center that will do it for $50-$75 and give you a warranty as well.
A DC jack often become loose if it is allowed to directly bear the deadweight of the heavy AC/DC Adapter on the power cable or the cable catches on something wile connected to the notebook. the AC/DC Adapter should lie full weight on the floor during charging. If the cable is not long enough for the heavy AC/DC Adapter to reach the floor, then it should be lifted it up and placed on the desk or table beside the notebook. Any cable length problems should be solved by using a surge-protected power extension cable. Also, a notebook should never be carried around when its power cable is attached to it.

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Symptoms of a broken Laptop DC power jack:


- The laptop only operates when you hold the DC power plug in a certain direction (DC jack is broken or loose).
- The laptop only runs on battery power (no power is getting through the DC jack).
- The laptop gets no power at all.
- The laptop will not charge the battery.
- The laptop switches from AC power to battery power intermittently due to a loose or broken power jack.
- The laptop suddenly shuts off.
- The DC jack may feel loose.
- Sparks come out of the back of the laptop when you insert the power plug into the DC jack.

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Motherboard or harddrive? I'm betting it's more towards the motherboard. The DC Power Jack to be more specific. This is the port where the AC adapter, (Charger), plug is plugged into.

The DC Power Jack is not much bigger, than the plug for the AC adapter that plugs into it. There are small pin leads that are on the bottom of this jack, and they go through the motherboard, and are soldered to the motherboard.

Accidental bumping of the AC adapter plug, while plugged into the DC Power Jack, can damage the jack. It can break the connections for the adapter plug, and/or can crack the solder joints for those small pin leads.

[Laptops use DC electricity. A flashlight battery, and a laptop battery, are examples of stored DC electricity. DC electricity has two poles. Positive and Negative. The DC Power Jack has two connections. Positive and Negative. {Even if the DC Power Jack has multiple holes in it]

There is also another known problem associated with DC Power Jacks. It may stem from a bad motherboard design.

More to the point, the area where the DC Power Jack mounts on the motherboard. In this design, the DC Power Jack motherboard area, is almost a separate part of the motherboard. It's shaped like a Peninsula. (Think of an island, with one side connected to the mainland)

This peninsula shape, has the tendency to crack away from the main body of the motherboard. Circuit traces are broken.

When the AC adapter plug is setting in a certain position, it presses the two broken halves of the circuit traces together, for a momentary contact. As the AC adapter plug is moved from this position, the circuit trace halves are moved apart, and there is no contact.

(No distribution of electricity from one circuit trace half, to the other circuit trace half. Think of a circuit trace as a very, thin, flat copper wire. When a circuit trace is broken, there is essentially a wire that is broken into two parts)

Solution?
See if the DC Power Jack can be repaired, (Solder joint connections re-soldered), or replaced.
If the DC Power Jack motherboard area is the aforementioned peninsula shape, it may require replacement of the motherboard.

There are very FEW, computer repair shops that have the technical expertise to replace a DC Power Jack. Easy fix is to simply replace the motherboard. (More $$$$$ too)

However, some laptops DO require replacement of the motherboard for this repair.
Bad motherboard design, for the DC Power Jack area on the motherboard.

Re-solder DC Power Jack solder joints? (IF, this is the problem) Average is $50 to $75 (US)
Replace DC Power Jack? Average is $125 to $150. (US)
Replace motherboard? Depends on the Gateway model. Could be $225 to $400 (US)

[Yes, most of the time the cost warrants just replacing the laptop itself, as the cost of replacing, is close to the repair cost)

Just to SHOW you ab average DC Power Jack, and the repair involved of replacing. (Doesn't show you, that the entire laptop needs to be disassembled, down to the bare motherboard in hand)

This is NOT a recommendation to replace the DC Power Jack yourself! It is just for knowledge of what is partially involved. (You can accidentally burn the motherboard when desoldering, or soldering, rendering the motherboard useless)

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/2007/12/06/dc-power-jack-repair-guide/

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Toshiba plug-in ac adapter LCDlight flashing and wont boot up


It may be that you need a new, (Or good condition used), motherboard. You may not.

The problem could be the DC Power Jack. The DC Power Jack is small, and the body is made of plastic. Sometimes there is a metal shell around the plastic body. (The jack is a rectangular shape, and is just a little larger, than the outside portion of that AC adapter plug!)

This is an example of a DC Power jack for a Toshiba Satellite a215-s5807,
http://www.notebookworks.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NBW52-0133

As you know there is a metal pin in the center, and at the back of the round hole, there are flat metal contacts.

Let me explain the construction of a DC Power Jack, and how it's mounted to a motherboard. This all has relevance to the solution.

Your laptop uses DC electricity. (The AC adapter converts AC to DC. Your laptop battery, and a flashlight battery, are examples of stored DC electricity)

DC uses a Positive connection, and a Negative connection. The metal pin in the center is Positive. The flat metal strips at the back are Negative.

That laptop DC Power Jack has metal prongs, that come out of the plastic body. One prong, (Or pin), connects to the Positive metal round pin, in the center of the jack.
There may be one, or two prongs, (Or pins), that come out of the plastic body, and connect to the Negative side of the jack. (Flat metal strips)
These prongs go down through holes in the motherboard, and are soldered on.

With the AC adapter plugged in, an accidental bump on the plug itself, could break the body of the jack, or break solder joints that hold the jack to the motherboard.

AC adapter removed, and battery removed. Use a NON-metallic object, and see if you can make the center pin of the jack move. See if the entire jack itself seems to move.
A.If the center pin moves, you have a broken DC Power Jack.
B.If the entire jack moves, you have cracked solder joints. (Broken)

Replacement of the DC Power Jack for A.
Re-solder the solder joint/s for B.

Cost of replacing a jack at a reputable computer repair shop? $90 to $150
Cost of re-soldering solder joints? $50 to $90
Cost of replacing the motherboard?
$250 on up.

If you are a skilled person with the correct tools, it is feasible for you to replace the jack, or re-solder the solder joints.
It is also feasible that you yourself, could replace the motherboard.

Some laptops have a poor motherboard design, for where the DC Power Jack is mounted to the motherboard.

Crude explanation would be, that the main body of the motherboard is a 1 foot square. Then a 2 inch square comes out of the side of the main body.
The DC Power Jack is mounted to that 2 inch square. From accidental bumping, OR just normal usage of inserting, and removing the AC adapter plug, this 2 inch square can crack away from the main body.
This, of course would require a motherboard replacement.

Disassembly instructions for a Satellite A200 and A205 Series laptops. Very close to the A215 Series,
http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/toshiba-satellite-a205/laptop-disassembly-1.htm

(Don't forget to buy, and use a cheap ESD wrist strap, to prevent static shock to the delicate hardware components, inside your laptop. Average cost is $7)

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Your DC Power Jack is bad, or the area of the motherboard where the DC power jack attaches to, is bad.

The DC Power Jack, is the small port where your AC adapter,(Charger), plugs into.
This is an example of an average DC Power Jack, for an HP Pavilion laptop, not installed in a laptop yet,
http://www.megaemarket.com/dc-power-jack-hp-pavilion-ze4200-zt117420011721182125.html
If you click on the photo it will enlarge.

The DC Power Jack in the photo is upside down, in relation to how it sits on your laptop's motherboard.
Those flat metal pins shown on top, go down through the motherboard, and are soldered on the other side.

1.Sometimes when the 'charger' plug is in the jack, and is bumped, it can crack the solder joints for the DC Power Jack's flat pins. This makes an intermittent contact. Eventually there is no contact at all.

2.Sometimes it's a bad design of the DC jack, and just from ordinary usage of the user plugging in the charger, and removing it, this can crack the solder joints.

3.Sometimes the small area of the motherboard where the DC power jack is mounted, can crack away from the main body of the motherboard.
To explain:
Crude example;
Envision a laptop's motherboard as having a 1 foot square shape. (It isn't. It's irregular shaped) Now on one side attach a 2 inch square. This 2 inch square, represents the area that the DC power jack is attached to. A 'Peninsula', if you will. There are circuit traces that go along a motherboard. Think of them as Very, flat, thin, strips of copper wire. These 'wires' become stretched, and break as the 'peninsula' cracks away from the main body of the motherboard.

Solution?
Have the DC Power Jack replaced, or the motherboard.
DC Power Jack cost? About $6 to $8 dollars.
Labor? $100 to $150.
The tech has to completely disassemble the laptop, to just the bare motherboard in hand. Then unsolder the DC power jack, resolder a new one in, and reassemble the laptop.
Motherboard cost? About $150 on up. Depends on where you obtain it. (Ebay?)
Labor? $100 to $200.

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