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Low Battery Indcator Flashes

I have had my Nikon D80 for 1 year. The last few times I have used the camera (even with the battery fully charged) the low battery indicator on the lcd screen will flash and it will not take a picture. If I turn the camera on and off or shake the camera the battery indicator will return to show a full battery. This is happening more and more often. Is there a problem with the camera or is it more than likely the battery going bad. thanks

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You can check the status of your battery, including chargeble life remaining, in the Setup Menu. You need to have the CSM/Setup menu option to display Full menus, not Simple, in order to get battery status. So see if that battery status selection says you need to replace the battery.

Since you can shake the camera to get full battery, it's possible the battery contacts (on the battery or in the camera) are dirty, so check that.

If you do need a new battery, spend the few extra bucks to get a genuine Nikon EN-EL3e from a Nikon dealer. I have learned that many off-brand batteries do not properly implement a needed reserve, and "Genuine Nikon" batteries bought online from non-dealers are often counterfeit, just relabeled junk.

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