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Water heater not working to capacity

If the water heater isn't used all day, when hot water is required it has less than half the expected volume . even though the temperature is turned up all the way. If the hot water had been used several times throughout the day, washing, dish washing etc, it seems to have its full capacity. any idea ?

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You most likely have two elements an upper and a lower. the upper is working and the lower is not. If there is two element there will be acess panels both high and low. cut off the power and open the lower one. You can feel the tank and see if it feel hot of just sort of luke warm. if it isn't hot the the thermostat or the element is out.

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I have a paloma ptg2-42pvn tank less water heater. I recently installed the remote as the unit quit making hot water. I wanted to see if it was producing a code. The remote is flashing 76 repeatedly. I...


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Water Heaters go Tankless


You may or may not have heard about these cool little devices by now, but if not, here is the low down.

Tankless water heaters are used all across Europe and come in several varieties.

1. Natural gas fired on demand Tankless
2. Oil Fired Tankless
3. Electrical Tankless

The most prevalent among these is the gas fired version.

In America, these energy savers are just starting to gain a foothold.
Leaders in the field are Titan, Bosch, Rinnai, and Noritz to name a few.

The real benefit to Tankless over Standard water heaters is that you never waste energy heating water that sits in a tank cooling until you use it.
If you have a 20 to 80 gallon water in your home, it will run night and day at odd internals maintaining it's own heat.

What this means to you is that in a typical day, whether you use hot water that day or not, is that your water heater will cycle many times to maintain it's heat whether the hot water is used or not.

Some people try to drive this wasted energy use down by wrapping their water heater with thermal blankets, or by insulating the water heater closet itself, which has only proven to be partially effective.

Also bear in mind that these Tankless water heaters are quite small compared to the Tank version, some are as small as 18 by 12 inches.
This means that your old water heater closet can now be used to store your valuables without fear of starting a fire.

A further waste of energy occurs when the exhaust heat is funneled to the outside when it could have been diverted to a heat exchanger or other energy conservation device.

Tankless water heaters perform far better in energy use than the old school, Tank type water heater by simply heating water exactly when it is needed, then shutting down when the hot water tap is turned off.
What this means for you, the consumer is that you will have hot water any time you need it, and the water will remain hot as long as the hot water tap is opened.

There are virtually no cold water periods for a tankless water heater.
You have an endless stream of hot water, without wasting a single BTU of heat, kilowatt of electricity, or ounce of natural gas.

The real surprise here is that nobody really knows just how much their utility bill is being affected by that Tank style water heater until the first utility bill arrives. The savings are immediate and significant, both in terms of less energy consumption and Dollars saved.

Let me drive that point home in real life terms.
You definitely will NOT use MORE energy after your install.
You will most Certainly use less!

There are several typical applications for Tankless systems in any common home.

1. Low Volume On Demand heaters can be installed under the sink.
2. High Volume Tankless Whole House heaters supply the entire home.
3. On demand Budget Tankless heaters can be located at the sink coupled with whole house heaters for faster hot water delivery to eliminate cold spots. These are the most popular for the beginner Tankless solutions.
Your cold water pipe is split from the cold water valve itself to the Tankless heater under the sink as well as the cold water tap. The hot water outlet is then connected to the Tankless water heater under the sink to provide instant hot water, eliminating the need for a hot water tap from the main hot water supply. This results in even less energy waste since the smaller Tankless heater uses less energy than a whole house Tankless unit.
4. On demand Tankless heaters use virtually no energy to heat unused water. When the hot water tap is off, the Tankless unit is off.

The price point for these Tankless models is fairly competitive against a standard water heater, but can sometimes be more expensive depending on the model and water volume you require. What matters most though is that these Tankless versions begin paying for themselves the day they are installed.

My final word on this is simple.
Most other countries in the world have been using tankless water heaters for a very long time due to natural gas and oil prices. Their adoption of these devices is a necessity rather than a purchase of convenience.
In terms of technology, America falls close to last place in this field, as well as many other areas where energy consumption is a factor.

When you purchase a Tankless water heater, you not only save money, but you also help the environment by wasting less energy to heat the same amount of water you consume on a per use basis. You will also use somewhat less water since you no longer have to wait for that cold water to leave the tap so the hot water will finally flow.

The choice is yours.
Choose wisely!

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Tankless Hot Water Heaters When is The Time and the Place to Use Them


In the past few years the tankless hot water heater has become much more popular. Should this type of water heater be used all the time for every job or is there some places that they just are not the right tool for the job?

Your water heater is something that you depend on everyday to give you a constant supply of hot water for the many things that you do. If you are building a new home or are just looking to replace an existing hot water tank then you need to look at all the possibilities to make a good decision about what your nest appliance should be.

Tankless or instant water heaters are a great way to make hot water. They will provide you with a constant somewhat limited supply of hot water. This means that the flow of the water is limited. Because of the way they heat the water instantly the volume of water running through the heater has to be controlled to get the temperature rise that you desire. The tankless water heater does not store any hot water. When it detects a flow of water in the water pipe the heater turns on and then it shut off when the flow stops. This feature will save energy if you only use water intermittently.

The downside of this type of water heater is seen if you need large flows of water at one time. The amount of fire that is needed to heat large volumes of water quickly is very high and it kills the efficiency that you expect from the unit. Also if you are continually using water then the instant water heater is not the way to go. Because the heater makes hot water so fast a high BTU flame is needed and the instant efficiency is not very good. The savings of this type of heater comes from it not storing water and keeping it hot from long periods of time till it is needed.

So if you are just using hot water a couple of times a day and most of the time the heater is just sitting there waiting for you the instant water heater may save you money. If you are using water a lot of the time or are using large volumes of water quickly then it probably will not be the appliance that you want. Also remember to check on the pricing of these tankless hot water heaters. They are very expensive to buy and install, often costing twice what a normal tank type heater would cost. Check to see if your pay back will be enough to cover the difference in the cost. In many situations the savings will be enough to justify the extra cost. And many times the savings will not be there. You need to research your options and make an informed decision.

Tankless hot water heaters are not well suited for every situation, but in many cases they are a very good money saving option.

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Rheem RTG-66DVN shuts off 1-2 times a day


You received recommended answer posted ago.
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Turn the heat higher on the hot water. So you will use less water. There is normally a knob to turn the water higher.

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My family is moving in...how do i increase hot water availability?


large water heater, turn p the themo stat to a higher setting ( watch for burns with young childern and older folks)

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Again if you have young ones or old people they can burn faster than any other group.the best is a larger heater for the DIY person.

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Our G6A-8E hot water heater started leaking shortly after being turned on. (We bought the trailer 2nd hand and this is our first time using it. It is a 2007 trailer so isn't that old.) We opened the...


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I would order all affected parts and have on-hand when work starts, otherwise you might be half done after a day of repair.
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Paragon 8145-20 is a 240V defrost timer
It is probably not best choice for water heater timer
Timer initiates defrost cycles each 4 hours.

A water heater timer should have more scheduling options.
-For example estimates show average run-time for water heater is 3 hours per day, depending on incoming water temperature, thermostat setting, and number of gallons used.
-To save money using water heater timer, you have to schedule times carefully so water heater runs less than 3 hours per day.
-Now your average electric water heater heats about 20 gallons per hour.
-Average shower uses 4-9 gallons hot water, so water heater needs to run 15-30 minutes (15 summer, 30 winter)
-Average bath uses 12-15 gallons hot water so water heater runs 45-60 minutes
-But lets say you run water heater for 1 hour and make 20 gallons of hot water. Then you take a shower, expecting hot water to remain in tank.
-Here's the problem ... cold water entered the tank to replace the shower water ... and the new cold water is cooling the rest of the tank.
-So a timer means scheduling hot water to match shower and bath events. For example taking shower and bath in immediate succession.
-Or set the timer for each individual hot water event ... for example set timer for 1/2 hour for shower, and later timer turns on 1 hour for bath, or 1-1/2 hr for 2 baths, etc
-> The flexible programming described above is not a characteristic of defrost timers.
I suggest Intermatic WH-31 240V or Intermatic T-104 240V or GE 15207. These are mechanical repeat-24 hour timers with manual override where each day has same schedule.
Digital programmable timers like Intermatic EH40 offer 7-day, 40 event programming. Weekends and weekdays can be different.
To see several box-type timers:
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Only goes on when I put hot water on full blast


hi, i expect the problem to be because the flow switch which activates the heater wont switch the heater on as it requires a certain amount of water to activate the flow switch & then bring it on.
It may also be thatthe sensor on the flow switch is scaled up so it needs a greater flow to keep the heater running?
Sensor or flow switch may need replacing.

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