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By Powe33 - usenet poster


no way!!

It's only like two light bulbs running all the time.. :(
didn't think it take that many solar panels just to keep
a couple of light bulbs running :(

i don't think i can use a 12 v pump because I need to pump
1000 gph to a waterfall with 5 feet of head (1000 gallon pond
is small) so needed a 1800 gph pump...

might have to just run an extension cord from the bedroom window :(

maybe i can recapture some energy using a water wheel or something..

i live in bay area california... so get about 7 hours of good sunlight
a day ..

pond pumps need to run 24 7...

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posted on Aug 02, 2007
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Beresford

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By all means, I think I wrote that a few lines up there. Mine are 13 watts a
piece at 12 volts. More than bright enough, but if you want to spend more,
go for the LED lamps for even more power savings. My white 12 inch neon over
the desk pulls 2.4 watts. Its about as bright as an 8 watt fluoresent.
But in the U.S.A. we do retain the right to burn incandesent lamps (as well
as the right to do many other silly things with our money), but dose the
O.P. want to pay for five times more panels to do that? Its up to him.
But as for me and my wallet, I choose to conserve.
Randy

No problem, just add lots of money

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posted on Aug 02, 2007
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2Pansy

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shouldnt he use low power CF Bulbs ?
why 100 watts ?

my bulbs are about 10 watts each,

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Solution #3
posted on Aug 02, 2007
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Beresford

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Hello Jimmy welcome to the group
Here in Nebraska, we use windmills to pump water to a holding tank.
Depending on your wind, that might help reduce your power needs/consumption
and also give a nice nostalgic look to the waterfall.
You could use a float switch on the tank to turn on the pump when wind is
not enough.
Depending on the property size, you might need a good sized windmill to make
1000 GPH though.
Led lights or compact fluorescents work great and you can do that part but
as these fine gentlemen have pointed out, the power grid is usually cheaper
to run big pumps.
This can be an expensive hobby, but I love it.
Best wishes to ya
Randy

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Solution #4
posted on Aug 02, 2007
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kcw573

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Well George did the same maths that I did - and we both came to
basically the same answer (without knowing all the details).

Most people have no idea just how much power it takes to run "two
light bulbs" 24/7.
If you mean 100 w light bulbs (approx) its nearly 5kwh.
Except for water heating (wood powered at this time of the year in
NZ), I only use 5kwh a day for my whole house.
Like George says, thats something like a 1.5kw array.

The sun may shine for "7 hours" but it isn't overhead all that time,
and there are cloudy days etc.

The amount of energy you could recapture with a water wheel would
probably not be worth the extra expense.

Its clear that you have grid power.
It would be foolish to run a garden pond pump on solar in that case -
unless there were compelling reasons to do so (and the power
requirement was quite low).

You statement that you "need" to pump 1000gph, is more likely that you
"want" to pump a 1000gph.

Regards

Eric Sears

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