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Oil drip on bottom of gearcase Kenmore Model 110.21882 washer

While replacing the motor drive coupling, I noticed oil-grease around the gearbox shaft where the coupling slides on as well as some oil drips on the bottom of the gearbox case.
I am assuming the shaft seal has gone bad.
Can the seals be easily replaced?

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Unless there is an abundance of oil this is normal.
If you tilted the machine to replace the coupling that could cause some oil to escape also.
There is a small hole in the top cover of the gearcase to release pressure. Sometimes a little oil comes out too.

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NO SPIN


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