Support For ATI Sapphire Radeon Graphics Card
By Putty - usenet poster
I talked a buddy of mine into installing Linux on his new computer in
a dual-boot environment with MS Windows. He was able to get the
operating system installed without any major problems.
However, he is having some problem with his graphics card. He is using
the ATI Sapphire Radeon 1650. Does anyone now if it is still necessary
to go through these steps to install support for the video card?
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Thanks,
Scott Huey
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Solution #1
posted on Aug 02, 2007
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Any binary driver in my book is bad, I hope you don't plan on using
mythtv, or anything that requires xvmc on any new Nvidia card. I wouldn't
start mentioning driver support under Windows either. If you did not
clean out the existing drivers under windows you proably have leftovers.
This goes for ATI, as well as Nvidia. I seem to see lots of posts about
bad performance as well on Nvidia products.
I seem to have the opposite reaction, I switched to a x1950 pro 512, from
a 6600gt due to driver issues. For some reason I had major problems with
texture corruption under Debian with Nvidia drivers with quake 4. I had
to switch to Ubuntu amd64 before quake 4 would run without texture issues
with my 6600gt. You can search the group for more details. It was really
weird, as quake 4 was the only game that had corrupt textures, utk4 did
not, as well as the open source games such as warsow. I bet if I switch
back I probably won't have any texture issues with my card now.
Personally If you go by pure binary installers I would say that ATI has a
better installer. You can tell it to build .deb according to distro,
like etch, sid, and edgy, fiesty. Then you just have to install them
with dpkg -i, call module-assistant. I literally don't see a problem,
unless you want to install compiz, or beryl. In either case you will want
to use module-assistant, so if one slacks ATI, the same could be said
about Nvidia. Now if your talking about openGL performance then Nvidia
usually has an edge from what I have seen. But the games I play, I
usually have most eye candy turned low, I just like smooth frame rates
over low fps anyday.
The truth of the story is their is no ideal graphics card for gnu/linux if
you use Open Source drivers you suffer from lack of 3d performance in
games. If you use binary you have a harder install for the modules, but
better performance. So you literally have to choose your poison, I just
don't like the way Nvidia is acting lately. so I won't reward them with a
purchase.
Gnu_Raiz
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Any binary driver in my book is bad, I hope you don't plan on using
mythtv, or anything that requires xvmc on any new Nvidia card. I wouldn't
start mentioning driver support under Windows either. If you did not
clean out the existing drivers under windows you proably have leftovers.
This goes for ATI, as well as Nvidia. I seem to see lots of posts about
bad performance as well on Nvidia products.
I seem to have the opposite reaction, I switched to a x1950 pro 512, from
a 6600gt due to driver issues. For some reason I had major problems with
texture corruption under Debian with Nvidia drivers with quake 4. I had
to switch to Ubuntu amd64 before quake 4 would run without texture issues
with my 6600gt. You can search the group for more details. It was really
weird, as quake 4 was the only game that had corrupt textures, utk4 did
not, as well as the open source games such as warsow. I bet if I switch
back I probably won't have any texture issues with my card now.
Personally If you go by pure binary installers I would say that ATI has a
better installer. You can tell it to build .deb according to distro,
like etch, sid, and edgy, fiesty. Then you just have to install them
with dpkg -i, call module-assistant. I literally don't see a problem,
unless you want to install compiz, or beryl. In either case you will want
to use module-assistant, so if one slacks ATI, the same could be said
about Nvidia. Now if your talking about openGL performance then Nvidia
usually has an edge from what I have seen. But the games I play, I
usually have most eye candy turned low, I just like smooth frame rates
over low fps anyday.
The truth of the story is their is no ideal graphics card for gnu/linux if
you use Open Source drivers you suffer from lack of 3d performance in
games. If you use binary you have a harder install for the modules, but
better performance. So you literally have to choose your poison, I just
don't like the way Nvidia is acting lately. so I won't reward them with a
purchase.
Gnu_Raiz
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Solution #2
posted on Aug 02, 2007
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Amen. And not just on Linux. Installing or uninstalling drivers on
Windows XP can be just as frustrating. Most end up buying third-party
uninstallers because ATI can't seem to make a program that will
uninstall their own drivers. And won't let you install new drivers
until the old ones are uninstalled. Infinite loop.
Truly bad. Nvidia is a breeze by comparison.
No more ATI for me.
rd
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Windows XP can be just as frustrating. Most end up buying third-party
uninstallers because ATI can't seem to make a program that will
uninstall their own drivers. And won't let you install new drivers
until the old ones are uninstalled. Infinite loop.
Truly bad. Nvidia is a breeze by comparison.
No more ATI for me.
rd
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Solution #3
posted on Aug 02, 2007
Grant - usenet poster
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I have used 2 different X1650Pro cards since December with Etch.
That may not be exactly the same as X1650, but my bet is that your
friend's will work fine with the proprietary drivers.
The instructions on the link you provided aren't quite the steps I
follow, but if they worked for someone else they will probably work
for you. (There is more than one way to get the same result here.)
I should point out that any changes to your kernel will require
uninstalling and reinstalling the ATI driver. That may annoy your
friend a lot, compared with how things work with Windows. Updating to
new (proprietary) drivers involves the same process.
If the Debian fglrx packages support this card (last time I checked
they did NOT, but you should check again) that would make your life a
whole lot easier -- updating the driver, for whatever reason, would be
so much easier. The main problem with that approach is the lag
between current ATI drivers and the Debian packages. The ATI
proprietary drivers since January have performed much better than
previous ones.
HTH,
Dave W.
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That may not be exactly the same as X1650, but my bet is that your
friend's will work fine with the proprietary drivers.
The instructions on the link you provided aren't quite the steps I
follow, but if they worked for someone else they will probably work
for you. (There is more than one way to get the same result here.)
I should point out that any changes to your kernel will require
uninstalling and reinstalling the ATI driver. That may annoy your
friend a lot, compared with how things work with Windows. Updating to
new (proprietary) drivers involves the same process.
If the Debian fglrx packages support this card (last time I checked
they did NOT, but you should check again) that would make your life a
whole lot easier -- updating the driver, for whatever reason, would be
so much easier. The main problem with that approach is the lag
between current ATI drivers and the Debian packages. The ATI
proprietary drivers since January have performed much better than
previous ones.
HTH,
Dave W.
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Solution #4
posted on Aug 02, 2007
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If his problems are anything like mine he would do better buying a non-ATI
replacement! Mine is a recently purchased Sapphire X1550 and it - predictably -
doesn't work as anything other than VESA, which limits it to a stretched (very)
1280 x 1024 resolution, instead of the VIewSonic's native 1680 x 1050.
It doesn't even work with Windows XP (apologies for the language) via the DVI
port and neither Sapphire, nor ATI are prepared to offer useful support.
Best of luck.
Peter HB
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replacement! Mine is a recently purchased Sapphire X1550 and it - predictably -
doesn't work as anything other than VESA, which limits it to a stretched (very)
1280 x 1024 resolution, instead of the VIewSonic's native 1680 x 1050.
It doesn't even work with Windows XP (apologies for the language) via the DVI
port and neither Sapphire, nor ATI are prepared to offer useful support.
Best of luck.
Peter HB
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