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Cannot Get Cartridge Back into Faucet

We had a leaky faucet and purchased a repair kit for Moen Brass Cartridges. We were able to take the cartridge out, but for some reason cannot get it back in. There was some water in the neck, we soaked it up with a towel; other than that we cannot figure out what the problem may be, it will not go in the final quarter inch. Thank you.

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  • rosenylan Feb 25, 2009

    We think it may be mineral deposites, we will try the sanding. Thank you

  • Thomas F. Schneider May 11, 2010

    Have you tried rotating it? Many of these only fit one way . Also make sure that their are no old gaskets from the one you removed, still stuck to the bottom of the casting, where you are attempting to install the new one. I have had minerial deposites which I had to remove by lightly sanding in order to install a new one also. 

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