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Fine gritty residue on dishes, particularly on glasses

My water temperature is within the recommended temp of the detergent manufacturer. I have tried the new packet, gel, and powder types of detergent.
I have cleaned the inside of the dishwasher with Tang, and vinegar as well as checking the bottom filter for debris. I have removed the upper spray arm and cleaned this as well (nothing appeared to be in the arm).
It seems that every dishwasher I've ever had runs fine for 2-3 years and this same problem occurs after this time frame (I've had this dishwaser for approximately 3 years) no matter the brand.

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  • glennda584 Mar 18, 2009

    We have the same problem. The grit is brown. It is deposited preferentially on one side of the glasses on the top rack, both inside and out, and on some bottom dishes. A repairman checked the machine, water temperature and drainages and replaced the drainage pipe, which had some of the same grit inside it. Also ran TSP through. Nothing worked. My son is running vinegar through it tonight and it made a loud grinding sound partway through the cycle, so I turned it off. He says it has made that noise before.

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Alm84, Are you using a brand name powder like Electrosol or Cascade? Try that first. Seriously, it makes a difference.
When you say your water temp is within the recommended temp for the detergent manufacturer, do you mean the water heater temp at the sink tap is 120 degrees? MOST problems with cleaning that are not caused by generic detergent or plugged filter/debris in the impeller area are caused by a failed heating element. No kidding, it makes a BIG difference and once it is repaired, you will see an immediate difference.
glenda, First try this: remove the lower spray arm and the filter and assembly. Clean everything in the sink and with a flashlight, inspect everywhere for "chunks" that is probably causing the noise.
Reassemble and test. If dishes still do not get clean, check the heating element, replace if needed.
If that does not fix the problem, you will need to replace the main wash motor/impeller.
Good Luck!
Please update me with what you both find. OK?

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