Trying to remove inner tub of a Kenmore 60 series washer.
My washer smells bad, and there is a lot of gunk between the inner and outer tubs. I am trying to remove the inner tub so I can clean all the gunk out. I have removed the agitator,but am unsure of how to proceed. I thought the tub would lift our after the agitator was removed but it does not. What do I need to do?
Re: Trying to remove inner tub of a Kenmore 60 series...
My friend had same problem with his machine. instead he filled it with
boiling water and dumped a bottle of no name brand liquid plumber in
and let it run through. the smell was fierce but it cleaned it out.
this is probably not the smartest or safest way but it is easy. oh one
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Barrel ? The inner spin basket or the outer tub ? Both require a lot of work. But everything has be removed, disconnected and or replaced. Front panel, door, rear panel, pulley, belt, flip up the top, all hoses and harnesses, top and bottom, front tub cover, bellows, un lip from the outer tub, cement block for weight, shocks on bottom and springs on top !
Grinding noises are bad. If you are lucky, you got an item (like an underwire support from a bra) between the inner and outer tub, which may be removed through the heater or drain openings in the tub. If you are un-lucky, your rear tub seal failed, causing the rear bearing to fail, or the shaft broke loose from the 3 arms of the spider which drives the inner wash tub. Either of those things is $$$ and a lot of work to repair, involving removal of the outer drum, seperation of the outer drum halves, and repair. (translation: minimum 2 hours labor if you've ever done one before)
The water always goes from the tub to the outer shell, that is where the pump connects. Put a little bleach in the tub with some water, shake the agitator side to side to move the drum enough to circulate the bleach around the tub. Then pump the water out and then lower the hose down to a bucket to get the last of the water out. Feel around between the inner and outer drums for anything that has jumped out of the inner tub to the outer drum. You should be able to push the inner drum aside enough to get your arm in. You may have to open the top to get your arm in the space. http://www.pcappliancerepair.com/model-display.php Check this site for your machine.
If the tub seal lets go water will weep into the tub bearing. This will rust the basket shaft and normally wreck the tub bearing. Once the bearings starts to get worn enough it usually gets very noisy. The tub bearing is pressed onto the outer back half of the tub shell assembly. Normally need to replace the inner basket/shaft assembly and the outer shell with the tub bearing. Sometimes the inner basket support will crack, this can give an clicking or banging noise as well.
Pictures of this job... A sure indication was the brown junk/gookus leaking out if the rear bearing area and the belt has spewed it around in the drum that the rear bearing and seal was bad... Picture1 - Picture2 The whole outer shell and basket come out to do this repair....what bad bearing and rusted shaft looked like... Picture1 - Picture2 - Picture3 I had to remove the back panel. Undo the pump hose & water level hose, remove the 2 shocks, remove the motor, undo the front boot from the outer panel and remove the 2 springs to lift the whole assembly out from the back to work on it. Picture1 ( boot pushed inside ) Help page1 - Help page2
washer spins but doesn't pump the water out, the drain line is probably
clogged. In many washers, a small sock or other piece of clothing can
get between the clothes tub and the outer tub that holds the water. If
the clothing gets between the tubs, it may then get into the drain hose
that's attached to the pump--or even into the pump itself. If it's in
the pump, you need to remove the hoses from the pump and pull the item
To remove the sock from the outer tub port, open the
washer's main access panel and remove the large-diameter rubber hose
that connects the pump to the bottom of the outer tub. Then, using
needle-nose pliers, try to grab and remove the clothing through the
Sometimes you can't remove the stuck clothing from
below. Then you have to remove the agitator, top of the outer drum
shield, and inner clothes tub. This isn't easy to do--and you may need
special tools--so you might be happier getting a qualified appliance
repair technician to do the job.
If the drain line isn't
plugged, the problem may be with your pump. Even if the pump appears to
be turning, the internal impeller may be broken. If so, you need to
replace the pump.
there is a special nut called a spanner nut. it is about 1 1/2 inches and needs special tool to remove it to get the inner tub out of the unit. you might be able to remove it with a pipe wrench and then you can get access to the outer tub. i would recommend just using a washer cleaner and trying that first. these chemical cleaners are designed to remove residues and are much easier then taking the unit apart.
Remove the agitator top. Remove the screw or plastic sleeve that holds the agitator down. A 1/2 inch socket extension will fit in the plastic sleeve. Pull the agitator out.
Now you will need to remove the nut that holds the inner tub. A spanner wrench is the best way, but you can use a large screwdriver to lossen the nut. Pull the inner tub. If it doesn't release take a hammer and a driving tool aka anything that will reach and not destroy the crown and tap all the way around the crown. If that doesn't release it, get someone to tap while you pull the tub. Be careful not to break the fill tube. I have broken quite a few being in a hurry. Haste makes waste.
Now with the tub pulled, clean the inside of the outer tub and the outside of the inner tub. Reassemble the machine.
FYI, liquid fabric softener and/or using too much detergent will cause the sewage smell. Liquid fabric softener is terrible for your machine. Use dryer sheets if you can adapt to them.
you must first remove the agitater,then remove the inner tube,you'll need a spaner wrench,you now can see the tub seal,how you need to remove the 3 bolts around the bottom of the outer tub,now you can remove the outer tub and replace the tub seal,or use some 3m gasket seal,up to you,you can get a new tub seal on line for $10,let me know how you do-mike
What kind of smell is it? If I can guess, I think it may be a musty or "locker-room" (sorry for bad memories) smell. I have found that sometimes a change in detergent (or sometimes the same detergent you have been using for years) can cause build up and retain that musty smell. I had to actually remove a inner basket completely and wash out both inner and outer drums to get rid of the funky smell. She had used the same detergent for years. Do you wash a lot of clothes in cold water? This could also make the situation worse. Try running a full empty load on hot with a bunch of bleach through the wash cycle, then stop the unit for a bit and let it soak and see if it clears up. Also, try changing detergents and use a HE type soap. HE causes very little sudding action, which in turn will stop the build up. If this doesnt work, you may have to remove the inner tub and clean out both baskets (a lot of time, and need a special wrench, unless you know how to work it off). Let me know if this helps any. Jim