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Pilot light will not stay light

Polit light ignited when the rad button is pushed down and in the pilot position but one you let up on the red button to move it to the on position the pilot light goes out. Anyone have any ideas?

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Check to see if the thermocouple tip is in line with the pilots flame, if its not heating the tip then carefully adjust as necessary. If the tip is in the flame and still wont stay lit then the thermocouple is due for a replacement.This task may require that the burner assy. be removed, so as to access the fasteners that attach thermocouple tip, hence disconnecting the gas line that leads to the burner, and must be properly reinstalled and leak tested. This item can be found at most hardware stores and home centers (Home depot/Lowes) be sure to gently remove the old one and take it with you (for comparison) when you are ready to purchase the new part.
Note: As with any repair of this nature, safety must come first, quality gloves and eye protection should be warn. also do not attempt any repair that is outside of your ability and knowledge.

Good luck...

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