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Cannot get the brass orifice off of the thermocoupler unit.

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  • David Shaub May 11, 2010

    If the replacement doesn't have the nut you need (Some "universal" units aren't totally universal, just cut it with a pair of wire cutters to remove it.

  • Thomas F. Schneider May 11, 2010

    Use two wrenches. Nuts are locked together. Replace the whole thing , including the brass fitting   ? 

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The thermocoupler doesnt have any removeable parts. it threads directly in the valve itself

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