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Server 2003: what group policy to allow tabbed browsing for IE7?

The system in question is running Server 2003 SP2 Standard Edition. The client PCs are running XP SP3, IE7.0.

The domain policy seems to be set to NOT allow for tabbed browsing from IE7.

I have looked, but could not find what setting(s) I can change to allow tabbed browsing.

What GPO setting(s) are necessary to allow for tabbed browsing?

Thanks for any help
-M

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  • Michael Mostow Feb 27, 2009

    Hi dante777,



    Thank you for your response.



    What I don't understand is how your response helps me to establish a new GPO that deals with tabbed browsing and link it to one or more OUs.



    This is what I tried on the Server 2003:

    I got into a GPO edit mode and created a new GPO which I called: AllowTabbedBrowsing.

    From there, rt click, edit. I saw Computer and User. I chose User. Then Windows Components and then Internet Explorer. From there, I am lost. I don't see anything related to tabbed browsing.

    Clearly tabbed browsing was not available in Internet Explored until what? Release 7-long after Server 2003 was established. So why would I find an entry for tabbed browsing as one of the IE options is IE7 did not exist at the time that Server 2003 launched. Also, I don't think that any subsequent updates added the option.



    I admit that I am a rank beginner with Group Policy and what you might assume that I know is probably is an over estimate although recently I was able to esablish a GPO that prevented locking the client PC. That was relatively easy because I was able to see the "no locking" attribute as one of the policys. I am trying to do something similar for tabbed browsing.



    In fine detail, can you outine presisely what steps I need to take to

    complete that goal?



    How does the registry settings related to the solution of my problem? Are you implying that ON THE SERVER I need to modify the registry in one (or both?) places that you indicated and THEN I would see a coresponding Group Policy in the GPO editor? I don't get how I need to use the registry info to solve what I am trying to accomplish.



    In any event, I do appreciate your input. It gave me some hope that a solution is possible but I still don't know how to accomplist it.



    -Thanks!

  • Michael Mostow Mar 02, 2009

    Thank you very much for your comments!



    They were extremely well-written and informative. I appreciate them very much. You have taken great care to be detailed and clear in your explanation.



    One of your statements stood out immediately: that perhaps the server was NOT running Internet Explored 7 as a possible reason why I DON'T SEE the setting "Turn off tabbed browsing". This made a lot of sense (what else could it be???). The only problem is that the serverin question IS RUNNING IE7!



    I believe that I understand and am following your steps and explanations carefully but for the last step: "Turn off tabbed browsing"--that I don't see (I'm repeating myself). What other explanation could there be (since the Server 2003 IS runing IE7)?



    To summarize what steps I have taken in order:

    I have started in Management Console (I also tried it from Active Directory Users and Computers). I am trying to set the policy AllowTabbedBrowsing on an Organizational Unit that I am calling "testOU". I Had created this object before and when I atempterd to edit it, I was not able to see the "tabbed browsing" entry.



    I had "browsed" through User Configuration, Administrative Templates, Windows components, Internet Explorer. At that level, I saw 7 sub folders with policies under them (Named as:Internet Control Panel(top one), Tool bars(middle on), Security Features(7th one). There were 36 policies at the save level of "Internet Explorer". "Configure Outlook Express" was the first, "Use Automatic Detection for dial-up" was the last one listed. I sorted them (as you suggested) as saw only 2 beginning with "Turn off": Crash Detection and pop-up management. No "Turn off tabbed browsing" as you had seen in your "simulation".



    So, I think that I am close to a solution but not there yet. It is very puzzling as to why I don't see the setting that I need. Could that setting be dependent on another setting?



    Many thanks again for your help. You have already spent a lot of time trying to help me with this. It is quite interesting to me that you see the setting but I don't.



    Very curious...



    The server is question is running Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition Service Pack 2 (with all updates applied) and Internet Explorer 7 version 7.0.5730.11.



  • Michael Mostow Mar 03, 2009

    Hi dante777,



    I can confirm that I performed the steps that you indicated in your screen dumps. That is the good news (for me).



    The problem arises at the point where you write: "Here's another screenshot:". I do not get what that screenshot indicates-not even close!

    You indicated "7th from the top is the setting we are looking for".

    Yes, I can clearly see that setting in YOUR screenshot!-let me compare what I see in my comparable sxcreenshot-here are the first 4 entries in reverse sorted order:

    1.Use Automatic Detection for dial-up 2.Turn off pop-up management 3. Turn off Crash Detection 4. Search: Disable Search Customization.



    Summary of above point: I only have 2 entries that begin with "Turn off ...". Your screenshot shows 20! (including the correct one). Why that is, I have no idea.



    I even tried an update of my version of IE7 (on a different server) to: 7.0.5730.13 and that only resulted in a minor difference-still nothing like the 20 entries beg. w. "Turn off ".



    Ok, we've given this a really honest effort and I feel uncomfortable taking up any more of your time. I accept the fact that no explanation is apparent as to why the two screen shots show different settings.



    At this point I am willing to drop this attempt to use tabbed browsing.



    I wantrd to give you another opportunity to respond to my comment, if you wish, before I rate this solution. I'm not a hard grader but I guess that I would have to choose "Helpful" although I would easily have chosen VERY helpful, if that were an option.

    I suppose that "FixYa" would not be appropriate since a true fix was not found.



    In response to your question about VMware server: I am not using it and I don't think that I want to pursue it, at this point.



    Thank you very much for your efforts.



    With gratitude,

    mxcomm

  • Michael Mostow Mar 04, 2009

    Hi Dante,



    A homerun in the bottom of the nineth with two outs!



    -OR to put it another way: a problem SOLVED!!



    I took you advice and unchecked the box "Only show policy settings that can be fully managed" under the View menu of User Configuration \ Administrative templates, thus leaving all 3 boxes unchecked. As a result...there it was! - "Turn off tabbed browsing setting" -at long last. A sight for sore eyes!



    I then linked the GPO to one of my non-testing OUs and it worked perfectly. Very gratifying and worth the effort even though it took quite a few postings and a lot of patience and expertise on your part to get the final result.



    What can I say? I am clearly very happy with the results (and I learned a lot on the way).



    My thanks again and warm regards,

    mxcomm

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First of all - what an excellent question! I felt challenged to find out and here is what I digged out:

The registry keys responsible for this settings are

  1. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TabbedBrowsing
  2. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TabbedBrowsing
The GPO's can be set on two levels:
  1. Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Internet Explorer
  2. User Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Internet Explorer
Hope this helps!

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    Hi Mxcomm,





    Thank you for your reply. There are
    a couple of things involved, so I try to touch them all.



    If you have any questions or don't
    understand what I try to explain, please come back here and let me know.






    First of all - I might not be able to
    give you a complete rundown on GPO's. It would be too much for this place and it
    is a very broad field, but I try to be as precise as I can.






    Anyways –
    let’s go:







    1. My mentioning of the registry
      settings was simply informative. Don’t mess around in it on your server.
      It will affect that machine only and have no impact on another machine in
      your organization. Although GPO’s are influencing the registry, you want
      to change the settings via the policy, not directly in the registry
      itself.

    2. How and where did you create
      the GPO? – You can do that directly from “Active Directory Users and
      Computers” or via a Management console. I personally prefer to create one
      or more Management Consoles and add the snap-ins I want to use. To create
      one, type “mmc” in the RUN command. Another great help in dealing with
      GPO’s is the “Group Policy Management Console”. Have a look at Microsoft’s
      TechNet site (here)
      and read through it. Very informative!

    3. I assume that you have Active
      Directory installed on that server. If not, only LGP (Local Group
      Policies) can be configured, but you can’t make policies for individual
      users or groups.

    4. In general: GPO’s can be associated
      with selected Active Directory system containers (sites, domains, and
      organizational units). The GPO's Group Policy settings are applied to the
      users and computers in those Active Directory containers.

    5. One important issue – and often
      a point for problems – is the fact that GPOs are applied in a certain
      order: Local Policy -> Site -> Domain -> Parent OU -> Child
      OU. This is important, because in a conflict situation, the Child OU
      settings override the settings you made at the Domain level. In other
      words: Keep good track what you apply where or the policies might not work
      as intended.

    6. In order to replicate your
      setting, I installed WinServer2003 in a virtual machine and could not find
      the appropriate settings either. It looks like you have to have IE7
      installed on the server, in order to see those options.

    7. Important: The option to
      restrict tabbed browsing does not show up in the Local Computer Policy or
      the Default Domain Policy - you have to get there via “Active Directory
      Users and Computers”!



    (ran out of space, so see the next comment!)



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    To get
    there use the following steps:




    1. Decide where you want to apply
      the GPO (on the Domain, Site, or OU level)

    2. Keep in mind in which order the
      GPOs are applied (see 5. above). All of the individual GPO settings are
      inherited by default. More than one GPO can be applied per level.

    3. Policies are refreshed every 90
      minutes (plus a random number not bigger than 30 – so not all computers
      contact the DC at the same time). If you want policies refreshed manually,
      use “gpupdate /force” from the command line.

    4. Right-click the object where
      you want to apply the GPO in “Active Directory Users and Computers”.

    5. Choose “Properties”

    6. Choose the “Group Policy” tab

    7. Create the new policy object “AllowTabbedBrowsing”
      (or edit it if you created it earlier)

    8. Go to


      1. User Configuration /
        Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Internet Explorer

      2. Computer Configuration /
        Administrative Templates / Windows Components / Internet Explorer






    1. Find the setting “Turn off
      tabbed browsing” (you can click on the Settings bar and order the policies
      alphabetically.

    2. Double-click it and choose “Enabled”.
      (See “Explain” for a short description.)

    3. If you want the policy applied
      to


      1. Users: Change the User Configuration

      2. Computers: Change the Computer
        Configuration

      3. Both: Change the User AND
        Computer Configuration

    4. To force the GPO out, open a
      command and type “gpupdate /force”.

    5. Done.





    There is a
    helpful tool in the MMC called “Resultant Set of Policies”. Once you have that
    in the MMC, you can create a query to the database and see the results of your
    policies. To change the query, you go to the ‘Action” menu and choose either “Change”
    or “Refresh Query”. This way you can check on a specific user or computer and
    see which policies are applied. Very, very helpful of you got carried away a
    little bit…;-), or just to troubleshoot (Why can John still use tabbed browsing
    in Computer01 in the Sales OU?)






    OK – I hope,
    I did not confuse you too much, but GPOs are a good source for headaches and
    confusion, although this should help you with the setup of your policy.



    My tip:
    create a fake OU with fake users, before you shoot this out to your helpless
    colleagues.


    Good luck & enjoy!





  •  C. Dante
    C. Dante Mar 02, 2009

    Hi Mxcomm,

    this is really crazy. I searched the Internet to find someone with the same problem, but without luck. (Don't get me wrong: this is not about my rating, this is about getting this done -we must be closed to a solution!) I just hope we're not getting kicked out here, due to the length of this post...;-)

    Let's see...

    I am using WinServ2003 Enterprise Edition (I don't have a Standard version around), but that should not be any problem.

    I installed everything from scratch:
    OS is WInServ2003, SP2 (all updates applied).
    IE7 vers. 7.0.5730.13 (slightly newer than yours).
    No other software is installed.



    1. Go to start -> Administrative Tools -> Active Directory Users and Computers

    2. Create Organizational Unit "testOU" directly in the domain.

    3. Right-click testOU and choose Properties.

    4. Go to the Group Policy tab.

    5. Create new policy (if necessary) and name it "tabbed browsing".

    6. Created a test user "Alpha" in the OU, so I can verify the policy later.
    Here's a screenshot at this stage (I used your name for the domain;-):





    1. Click to edit the policy.

    2. Expand User Configuration

    3. Expand Administrative Templates

    4. Expand Windows Components

    5. Click on Internet Explorer

    6. Click twice on the Settings bar to sort the entries alphabetically z-a

    7. 7th from the top is the setting we're looking for.

    Here's another screenshot:



    Double-click to open and then set to "enabled".

    In my console, I added the snap-in called "Resultant Set of Policy" and ran a query for user Alpha.



    The result you can see here:



    I really (and I mean "really") want to get this fixed.
    Can you confirm the above steps?
    If all this fails, try an update via "Windows Update" and see of that makes any change.
    If you are using VMware server, I could send you the virtual machine I created and you can try out yourself. Would that be helpful to you?

    ...waiting for your reply...good luck!



  •  C. Dante
    C. Dante Mar 02, 2009

    Hi Mxcomm,



    this is really crazy. I searched the Internet to find someone with the
    same problem, but without luck. (Don't get me wrong: this is not about
    my rating, this is about getting this done -we must be closed to a
    solution!) I just hope we're not getting kicked out here, due to the
    length of this post...;-)



    Let's see...



    I am using WinServ2003 Enterprise Edition (I don't have a Standard version around), but that should not be any problem.



    I installed everything from scratch:

    OS is WInServ2003, SP2 (all updates applied).

    IE7 vers. 7.0.5730.13 (slightly newer than yours).

    No other software is installed.




    1. Go to start -> Administrative Tools -> Active Directory Users and Computers

    2. Create Organizational Unit "testOU" directly in the domain.

    3. Right-click testOU and choose Properties.

    4. Go to the Group Policy tab.

    5. Create new policy (if necessary) and name it "tabbed browsing".

    6. Created a test user "Alpha" in the OU, so I can verify the policy later.


    Here's a screenshot at this stage (I used your name for the domain;-):








    1. Click to edit the policy.

    2. Expand User Configuration

    3. Expand Administrative Templates

    4. Expand Windows Components

    5. Click on Internet Explorer

    6. Click twice on the Settings bar to sort the entries alphabetically z-a

    7. 7th from the top is the setting we're looking for.



    Here's another screenshot:







    Double-click to open and then set to "enabled".



    In my console, I added the snap-in called "Resultant Set of Policy" and ran a query for user Alpha.







    The result you can see here:







    I really (and I mean "really") want to get this fixed.

    Can you confirm the above steps?

    If all this fails, try an update via "Windows Update" and see of that makes any change.

    If you are using VMware server, I could send you the virtual machine I
    created and you can try out yourself. Would that be helpful to you?



    ...waiting for your reply...good luck!







  •  C. Dante
    C. Dante Mar 03, 2009

    Hi Mxcomm,

    I am really sorry that we did not get any further yet. I understand how frustrating this situation is and I wish I could have been of more help.
    When I was talking about the rating, I didn't mean to ask you to lower it;-) - but that is absolutely your decision and I respect that.
    Furthermore there is a point, where you just had enough and have to let go. Sanity comes before perfection...
    To give it one last shot, I wanted to suggest you two more actions you can take.

    To the point:

    If you really can't see the tabbed browsing option in the Group Policy Editor, there are two more options to explore:

    A) Simple solution:


    1. Go to your Group Policy Editor (that's where I took my 2nd sceen shot)

    2. View menu -> Filtering: disable all filtering (uncheck all three boxes)

    B) Slightly more complicated

    Another option is that one of the dll's is corrupt or missing. Each area of the policies is implemented by an MMC snap-in dll, that sometimes can become unregistered or removed, which in turn causes some elements not to show up. The snap-ins are located in C:\Windows\system32


    1. You can either re-register the dll or simply replace all Group policy Adm files.
      To re-register, you open a command prompt and type "regsvr32 ".
      Here is a complete list of DLL's that can be re-registered:



    • Administrative Templates and Scripts: gptext.dll

    • Folder Redirection: fde.dll

    • Internet Explorer Maintenance: ieaksie.dll

    • IP Security: ipsecsnp.dll

    • Public Key and Software Restriction: certmgr.dll

    • Remote Installation Services: rigpsnap.dll

    • Security: wsecedit.dll

    • Software Installation: appmgr.dll

      In your case I would assume that it is either gptext.dll or ieaksie.dll


    1. You can download the complete set of Administrative Templates. You can find the files here.
    I also add some links form Microsoft. Here you can find more detailed information if you want to:

    Group Policy Troubleshooting
    Group Policy Quick Fixes
    Some Group Policy areas are missing from the Group Policy Editor

    With kind regards,

    Dante


  •  C. Dante
    C. Dante Mar 04, 2009

    Wonderful.

    I just want to add one thing often overseen when dealing with group policies. It is called "Policy tatooing" and occurs when you remove a policy no longer wanted. Look at this article which also explains the difference between policy and preference in regards to GPOs (and explains why you couldn't see the tabbed browsing in your setting.)

    If you apply your policy in Computer Configuration/Administrative Templates/Windows Components/Internet Explorer and do a "gpupdate /force", a Registry key is created at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\TabbedBrowsing and set to "0".

    Then there comes a point when you don't need or want this policy any more and you simply go into your Group Policy Editor and remove that policy. "Tatooing" means that - although the policy will be removed - this Registry key will NOT be removed or changed back to "1". As a result you will look forever and tear your hair out, because some machines will beable to use the tab, while others will not.

    What you have to do instead, is to set the policy to "disabled", wait until it is fully replicated through the domain, and then remove it.

    Don't we love this...

    Alright - enough now. (I promise!)

    It was my pleasure and - although quite some posting for and back was involved - I am very happy that the problem got solved.
    Anytime again.

    Dante


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Hi,

Kindly revert for further analysis - for the points below

1.as said above - have you shared c:\ for clients ?
2.Are you using Terminal server - without security policy ?
3.is Your client directing logging in the server ?

if not any of the above please explain - ur problems in point specification.

Regards,
Sushil
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(mail me across in case of emergency)

May 27, 2008 | Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2003 for...

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Logging on to server


You need to go into administrative tools and look for group policy.

In the local computer policy
Computer Configuration
Windows Settings > security settings > Local policies > user rights assignment. In the right hand pane find the policy for "Allow log on locally" Set the user accounts for those users which are allowed to log on interactively on the server. Be careful you dont lock the administrator account out.
Use in conjunction with the "Deny logon locally policy" if you need to.
Hope this helps

Mar 22, 2008 | Microsoft Windows Server Standard 2003 for...

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