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Shader 3 compatibility?

I was wondering when upgrading graphics, if this system is compatible with shader 3 or higher video cards

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  • yingyang747 Feb 18, 2009

    while im here as well, i was planning on upgrading my motherboard to something newer a nd still using the same old case. Will this fit my dell dimension 2400?

    http://www.compuvest.com/Desc.jsp?iid=66...

    also, would i have to change anything because of open slots and compatablity? (besides ram) everything is completely stock in my old computer besides ram and im not very computer savvy but i do know how to disassemble it

    thanks a bunch guys


    -yingyang747


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Hey,

If you look at this page you can see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_shader#Hardware_Compatability

PS version (pixel shader version supported / compatible)
so that would be for shader 3 requirement

Ati Radeon x1300 to x1950 cards support it Also!
Nvidia Geforce 6 and newer.

The Radeon hd 3xxx and newer support version 4 (everything 1 2 3 4)

well you can see on the list.

If you want a cheap card with just shader 3 support

get ati radeon x1900 or better
or Nvidia 8 series, nvidia 8600 GT for example.

Do you need a place to buy them from?

in the USA - http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=38&name=Video-Cards-Video-Devices

for example, this one is cheap
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814140104

But it requires a PCI-E slot on the computer. Looking at your computer you have a agp slot, I think its time to buy a new computer for the newer games.


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