Question about Frigidaire ATF6000ES Front Load Washer
Our laundry room fills with sewer gas after the use of the washing machine. Both the house and washer are new. The plumber says it's the washer that is sending water at too high of a rate down the drain line and
"blowing" out the p-trap. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
When you have problems with sewer gas smells around a
fixture, there can be a number of causes.
1. Sewer gas coming back up into the home
a. Blocked vent.
b. No vent.
2. Leaking drains that cause rotting below the floor.
3. Moisture that causes mold buildup.
4. No trap on your sink.
5. One roof vent on septic system.
6. Toilet needs to be reset and calked.
Sewer gas can come back up into your home, when the
trap completely empties after a letting the water out
of a fixture, when the trap dries out, or when it is
sucked out by another fixture flushing. When water
goes into a pipe, it first has to push the air ahead
of it, if there is no place for it to go, it comes up
the trap. This causes a buildup of pressure if there
is no vent.
If there is a vent, the pressure is relieved up to the
roof, carrying with it all of the yucky smells. When
the water runs down the drain, the air behind it has
to be replaced, if its not, the pipes will try to ****
it from some drain...typically the shower drain, but
sometimes the floor drain when its close to a washer.
When vacuum draws air in through the trap on the
laundry tub it also takes the water out of the trap,
leaving an opening where the sewer gasses can come
back up from the septic system .
Think about your pipes as if they are a drinking
straw. When you put a straw into a glass of water,
the water fills the straw. But if you put your thumb
over the end of the straw and pull it out of the
water, the water (or liquid) stays in the straw. This
shows you, air has volume. When you remove your thumb
from the end of the straw, the water flows back into
the glass. This is the principal of a vent.
So if you only have the smell when a fixture is
running, the trap is refilling after the fixture and
blocking the sewer gasses from coming into the home,
but your vent is probably not functioning.
In addition, if you have only one vent up through the
roof on a septic system, you can get sewer gas smells
coming up through your home. As the wind blows
across the roof, it pressurizes the plumbing system.
Since the septic tank is full of water, the wind
cannot go into the septic tank. So it bubbles up through the
traps into the house. Installing a vent on an
opposing roof pitch, helps to relieve the pressure buildup,
since the wind then is only hitting one side of the
Floor drains are succeptable to this type of pressure.
If your drains are partially clogged it can work
similar to a clogged vent. Since there is no place
for the water to go, it forces the air, which is much
lighter up through traps, bringing sewer gas into the
If your fixture is not set right or is wabbling, the
traps or wax ring that seals it underneith may not be tight.
When this happens, if you empty the fixture, sewer gas
will come under the sink into the room.
Each of these senarios will require a different
solution. The key to solving your problem, is having
the right questions to ask when the plumber comes out
to look at it. The previous information should
provide you with a basis for the questions you need.
Make sure before you call a plumber to check
cleanout covers and pipes to see if they have
openings to the sewer. If you have an opening
without a trap, you will get sewer gasses.
In conclusion, if you don't have a vent inside the
wall which equalizes the air pressure inside the
pipes, if you are on a septic system with only
one roof vent, if the vent is clogged off due to
sludge and soap scum, if you don't have a proper trap
on your sink, or if the drain is clogged, sewer gas can escape
into your home.
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Posted on Feb 13, 2009
Sounds like the drain line is not big enough or it needs a extra vent pipe on the line running to the p trap. Most of the time on new homes they only install a vent pipe running all the way to the roof. But a extra vent pipe is need where the hose attaches to the drain/sewer line. You can do this by buying a T wye, and some extra piping. Also the drain line should be 36inches long before the drain is installed. If it is to short it will also cause this problem
Posted on Feb 13, 2009
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