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Immediate RROD and fans only run for a second

This unit came to me 3RROD, its the dual socket HDMi/Tv model unit.

i have repaired successfully several other 360s using the Xclamp fix bolts and washers. someone had already done the fix on this one but the paste was very thick. i cleaned it all off thoroughly, used new washers and new Artic 5 Past, and i have now done this twice on this Xbox.

when i hit the on button the rear fans run for about 1/2 second and stop with 3 reds. i replaced the fans thinking perhaps one might faulty either drawing too much r little current, but the same result persists.

i have left it on for a couple of hours but its not getting hot enough to affect the solder (as claimed in the towel trick).

the psu indicator returns to orange after initially flashing green on start up.

i tried a known to be working PSU brick too

so any idea's/suggestions i would be grateful

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  • coppab Feb 13, 2009

    I just repaired the red ring with the washer method and now I have 2 red rings doing the exact thing that you explained. I have added thermal paste and no change and have played around a bit with some other things.



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Hey i had the same prob after x-clamping took it all bk out of the caseing same, then i unpluged the dvd player it worked fine pluged it bk in and havent hade a problem yet defantly worth u trying

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It is shorting out the motherboard. Somewhere on the board is in contact with the metal case. Try putting the pads back underneath the motherbaord.

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If you Google “Xbox 360 RROD” you will find countless web sites about the “X-clamp fix”.

Every web sites you find will say “MS screwed up only have the x-clamps hold the heatsinks on”

But if you have disassembled your Xbox 360, then you should think about that! All the X-clamps do is hold the heatsinks to the circuit board so that it’s easier to put the screws in!
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