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By Luisa_K - usenet poster


I plan on purchasing a computer (PC) to do recording with : using Cakewalk pro
audio 8
Can anyone recommend minimum specs for:

hard drive speed- brand?
which brand seems to have the least problems- dell, gateway, etc.
processor- pentium II or AMD, etc.
compatibility?
anything else you can think of?
thanks so much
greg

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Solution #1
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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Grant

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There are thousands of sources. I'll give you two that I like. I won't shill
for these companies on this newsgroup or I'll get killed. if you want the
companies for these 2 systems, e-mail me. One's a major manufacturer you'll
recognize, the other is a mail-order indy located in California.

System 1 (major manufacturer):

733MHZ Intel Pentium III Processor
128MB 133MHz SDRAM-1 DIMM
13.6GB ATA-66 hard drive (7200 RPM)
8X/40X ATAPI DVD ROM with software decoder
1.44MB 3.5in floppy drive
32MB nvidia TNT 2 Pro
128 Voice PCI Wavetable Onboard Sound w/Advent AV009 Speakers
Standard speakers
56K 3Com V.90 Data/Fax Winmodem
Microsoft Intellimouse
Mid-size Tower
Microsoft Office 2000 SB
5/3 year limited parts warranty with 1 year onsite service

The price was $2,047+shipping (no tax to NY). The only thing you have to add
is a monitor and a real sound card. And of course, your gear. By the way,
the cheapest thing you can do is buy the biggest baddest 21-inch monitor you
can find. I did this in 1995 and am still using this monitor 3 systems
later.

If you want to save even more (maybe 15-20% or so) and assume a little risk,
you can go with any number of independent system builders. If you're going
to do this, it's usually best to find one of those little neighborhood
computer stores that's run by an Asian dude (don't flame me, it's not an
insult, it just seems that every indy PC store in the NYC area is owned and
operated by Asians. They seem to have a knack for this, they build great
systems and have saved me a lot of money over the years).
Of course, you'll have to pay tax, but you'll have someplace to bring it
back if there's a problem.

Or you can get slightly more adventuresome and have an mail order indy build
you a system:

System 2:
How's this for a basic setup:
Part# Description Quantity
MB6508 ABIT BE6-II Pentium?? III/II, 440BX AGP 3x168pin DIMMs ATX 1
IC7439 Intel 600MHz Pentium III processor w/512KB L2 cache 1
MICK606 Pentium?? III/II SECC2 heatsink with cooling fan 1
MYDM404 16Mx64 3.3V SDRAM 168-pin DIMM PC100 (128 MByte) 1
FDNS475 Teac 3?? 1.44MB FDD 1
HDG1305 IBM DTTA-371350 13.5GB 9.0ms 7200rpm Ultra/66 2048KB Buffer 1
HDR103 Iomega Zip ATAPI Insider 100MB Bulk Internal for PCs 3?? EIDE 1
DAG713 Diamond Viper V770 AGP4X RIVA TNT2 32MB SDRAM OEM 1
CRI829 Optiquest Q95 19"/18" Color 1600@76Hz .26mm 1
HCR126 Plextor PlexWriter 8X/4X/32X ATAPI ReWriter Drive Internal 1
HCV110 Toshiba SD-M1212 DVD 6X DVD-ROM 32X CD-ROM 1
MI862 IDE Internal 24inch Long Cable for 2 Devices 1
BS500 Aureal Vortex2 SuperQuad Digital PCI OEM AU8830 320V +S/PDIF 1
MIS115 Cambridge Soundworks PC Works FourPointSurround speakers 1
BFC714 SmartLink 5634PEW Internal V.90 56K Voice ESS chipset 1
BNE703 SmartLink 10/100 Combo PCI Ethernet WOL 1
CT701 Addtronics Super Tower ATX 8x5?? / 3x3?? 300W ATX UL 1
KT705 Acer Keyboard-52TB 104-key w/Win95 keys, 6-pin DIN for PS/2 1
MUS508 Logitech USB Wheel Mouse, 3-button w/ scroll wheel 1
SO780 Microsoft OEM Windows 98 CD-ROM 1

Total cost $2,530

You could easily pair this down to $2,100. Get rid of the network card, the
gaming sound card, the Cambridge speakers, and maybe the DVD-ROM. You'll
still have a kick ass system that will track like crazy, and has a CD
writer, a 19" monitor, and a Zip. Not bad.

Yes, you can put together a great system this way. The components are mostly
top flight (Acer keyboard? I don't think so. Everything else looks good or
very good). But, you're buying mail order so you better have a good comfort
level with ripping the case off and making changes yourself. There's no one
to help you because these types of vendors typically can't afford much in
the way of support.

But hey, half the fun is battling to get all the gear to work right.

-Marc

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Solution #2
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LiZzIe

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OK, I can live with that.

Sounds good. Now if we could only throw in some bona fide musical talent to
the dude who bought all this gear we might be on to something...

True enough. Hey it's a free country. If the guy is finding buyers for
$2,000 buyers for an $800 system, well, hell, his kids have to eat too I
suppose...

-Marc

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Solution #3
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Riddle

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Maybe you should, and maybe there should be people willing to pay that
much for a fully configured system. I'd put in something a little
classier than a SoundBlaster Live though, maybe a 24-bit 8-channel
interface, offer a choice of one of "the big three" programs, supply a
17 or 19 inch monitor, 128 MB of RAM, and price it around $3,000 as a
complete turnkey system. Maybe add a CMAutomation controller for
another $500 or so, or that Peavy/Cakewalk thing, or the upcoming
Edirol fader/interface thingy.

What usually happens is that someone buys a computer for something
else first, then decides to use it for recording - or decides he knows
enough about computers to buy a mother board, memory, case, disk
drives, and interface cards from four different vendors for about
$750, buys an interface and software from a music store from another
two vendors for maybe $1,000, then spends the next three months trying
to make it all work.

There's room in the market for both kinds of suppliers.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mriv@d-and-d.com)

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Peter1

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You need big, and fast. If you have the bucks, spring for SCSI. Say, an
Adaptec 2940U2W controller ($330) plus a Quantum or Seagate 9 or 18 gig
Ultra2 SCSI 10,000 RPM ($350-$600) drive to go with it.

If you're on a tight budget, you can go with an IDE drive, but make sure its
an Ultra ATA model that spins at 7200RPM. Instead of one big one, get two
medium size drives (one for programs and one for music data only.) This
combo will set you back about $600 total compared with $700-$1,000 for the
SCSI option. (However the SCSI option will give you as many tracks as you
need, plus you can add additional drives if you need more space. Big initial
investment, but it pays off later).

Dell, Gateway, Micron, it doesn't matter, they're all great (I've had
experience with all three, I prefer the Microns myself). IMPORTANT: Mid
tower or, preferrably full tower case (for some reason, the full towers are
getting hard to find). Don't get a desktop or a mini tower. Fast hard drives
run hot, and do better in a large case with adequate cooling. Plus, it's
often difficult, or even impossible, to add things later if the case is
small. This won't cost you any extra money, so make sure you get a big case.

Get an actual Pentium 3. Stay away from Pentium clones. Music hardware is
very finicky and you'll have enough problems without additional
compatibility issues. Don't listen to the Intel-Microsoft bashers. You're
not interested in grinding axes, you want a great computer.

Since Cakewalk is your sequencer, I won't suggest a MAC. However, they are
also a great alternative and have more software and support for music
related applications. If you're not much of a computer geek, you might be
better off forgeting about Cakewalk and get a MAC+Digi 001 system (Total
cost $3000). More capabilities, less hassles. Me, I like hassles and
headaches, so I stay with my tried and true Pentium platform. BTW, I have
Cakewalk software, I like it and will continue to use it. However, I went to
a Digi 001 product demo, and baby that little system rocks for $900. The
demos are continuing at Guitar Center, Sam Ash, etc. GO TO ONE! Digi 001 is
available for the MAC now, but a Windows version is imminent. I have $900
ready to go as soon as it comes out.

BIG MONITOR. 19 inches ($350). You won't regret it.

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Solution #5
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maartenw

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I don't think so, John. They want $2000 for this:

ATX Mid-Tower Case with 250 watt power supply
Extra 40mm Case Fan (for additional cooling)
Soyo Tek SY-5EMA+ Motherboard - 5PCI, 2ISA, 1AGP, 3DIMM slots, USB ports
AMD K6-II 400mHz Processor
64mb PC100 SDRAM
6.4gb EIDE Hard Drive for operating system and software
10.1gb EIDE Hard Drive for audio data
Standard 1.44mb Floppy Drive
44X CDROM Drive
4x2x8 CD-RW Re-writable CD Recorder
8mb AGP Video Card
Soundblaster Live! Value Sound Card (OEM)
V.90 Fax/Data Modem (56k)
15" Color Monitor
Windows PS/2 104-key Keyboard
PS/2 Two-button mouse
Microsoft Windows 98 (Second Edition, optimized for audio recording)
Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0
Cakewalk Pro Audio 9.0
CD creation software

This is, at best, a run of the mill $800 system, maybe $1000 with the
Cakewalk software. For $2,000, you can get a 733Mhz Pentium 3 with 256MB RAM
and a bunch of other goodies.

Maybe I should get into this business if there are buyers willing to pay
$2,000 for this type of system.

-Marc

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Solution #6
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Hi Greg,
I wouldn't bother with companies like Dell or Gateway. They don't have
the first clue to building a machine for music production. I tried that
route a long time ago. If you really want a machine that's designed for
recording music, you should really check out a Studio Gem system. I own
one that does 64 tracks glitch free. It's the best investment I ever
made in my music career. Check these guys out at
# As far as I'm concerned, they are the best!
I've gotten to be pretty good friends with some of their tech guys.
Tell 'em I sent ya. (no, i don't get a commission) :-) Just say Hi for
me. Thanks!

John Steele

Sent via Deja.com #
Before you buy.

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