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Weird hard drive won't boot

I have a home business working on computers, and its not often i come accost a problem i can't fix but this one got me.
Doing a routine disk clone, i'm swapping out an almost full 40gb for a 320gb hard drive.  The old drive is a seagate, the new one is WD.  Both are OEM drives.  When i put the new drive in after cloning the old one, it won't boot, if i put in the windows XP sp2 recovery disk, it boots fine.  Makes me thing it has a bad MBR, so i fixed the boot files and nothing.  Put an XP pro cd into the computer and it said the copy of XP is damaged, had it do a repair, still won't boot up.  Put the original drive back in and it starts up just fine.  I'm missing something but have no idea what it is.

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  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    its not the jumpers, the HDD, CD and floppy are connected separately to the MB, Tried playing with the jumpers with no luck, that was one of the second things i tried.  A very big HUH moment.

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    no error on boot unless i do a full post, than i get that the media may be unpluged, the HDD shows up fine in BIOS, and with a boot disk it starts fine, just need it to start on its own without a boot disk

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    Yes, does seems like its not writing the boot files, just not sure how to replace them.

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    tried that a few times in a few different ways, each one won't boot with out a boot disk.

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    i can burn an ISO, i did that so i could make a recovery disk so i could get into xp, the problem is i need the disk for it to boot, the HDD won't boot on its own, tried copying the boot files from the XP cd with no luck on it booting

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    This is what i get

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    That was my next step, working on it away from home so didn't have another desktop, will try that later today, first trying to copy it to a smaller partition, see if it does anything.

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    does not boot from another computer, does the same thing.  So that narows it down to the drive, question no, why doesn't it copy the MBR from the old drive..

  • Ryan Hall Feb 07, 2009

    it does boot from a fresh install, just trying to avoid the pain in the rear part of copying everything over, mostly because its not mine and i want it to look identical when i'm finished.  i wish it had a place for a second HDD, i would just keep both in the system.  and i would like to know how to fix this if i ever see it again.

  • Chris May 11, 2010

    Wow, this is a tough one! Can you put the 320GB in a different machnie and see if it will start to boot in that?

  • Chris May 11, 2010

    When you boot from the boot disk, open a command prompt and type:

    bootcfg /Query

    Does it show any entries?

  • Randall  Trahan
    Randall Trahan May 11, 2010

    I found this on one of the forums hope it helps:

    I opened the cd using the my Fedora box and saw 1 iso file. I used roxio in one case to create the cd. This was the same way I created my Core2 cd set and they all worked.

    That way won't work. You have to convert the .iso file into folders and files. It is easy to do, if you have nero just select "burn image" from the file menu, and point it to the .iso file. It will convert it into the usable form. If you burn the .iso it will never work.

  • Randall  Trahan
    Randall Trahan May 11, 2010

    Is there any way you can clone it again?

  • Randall  Trahan
    Randall Trahan May 11, 2010

    The only thing I can figure is that the burn did not work correctly so you don't have a bootable .iso.

  • Randall  Trahan
    Randall Trahan May 11, 2010

    Go back to the basics..its booting past the hardware check stage so you need NTLDR to grab it from BIOS and get things started, NTDETECT.COM checks the hardware, BOOT.INI defines where the operating system is, then it is turned over to NTOSKRNL, HAL.DLL to bring up the Windows screen. If you can copy NTLDR, NTDETECT.COM, BOOT.INI AND NTOSKRNL to a disk you could get it to the operating system.

  • Chris May 11, 2010

    Is there any kind of error message? Anything about boot.ini?



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Try putting it in and loading an OS onto it directly (Install XP Pro or whatever you have handy). Let the machine do the disk work fo you. See if it will boot that way. If it does, then you should be able to copy off the important files by hooking the old one up as a slave. It's a pain in the rear, but sometimes it's better to start with a fresh install of the OS.

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How to set jumpers to run two hard drives

Haven't read anything about setting up either of them as slave and the other as master... if you don't do that... you get this sort of "HUH, what's going on." Not quite that simple, but not that hard either if you're IQ is probably at least 80, you should be able to do it... heck, half the drives have the jumper settings printed on them.

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