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Singer CG590 Timing & Tension Problems

I read a post you answered about someone complaining of tension troubles on their CG590 and you mentioned timing. I have similar problems on my CG590, called the repair shop, they said it was most likely timing and needed cleaning (8 months old and used most every day) so i did just that....repairman said it had lots of lint but the timing was pretty much OK and didn't need to do too much "tune up". So, I get it back home and it is still having tension troubles, but ONLY when I am free motion quilting - drop the feed dogs, put on the darning foot and sew. I would LOVE to know about the timing on a sewing machine so if you could send me that information, and anything else that might benefit me from having to take it back to yet another repairman and pay another $60, I would really really appreciate it! Thanks....Jenn Baker....teambaker1@gmail.com

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Hi, welcome to FixYa. First, if you don't have a manual for your machine, you should purchase one. Click on the link below - it will take you to a site that sells the manual for your machine and might be able to answer your questions.
www.thesewingoutlet.com

Timing adjustments are very precise, different for each machine, and often require a special instrument or tool to set the timing properly. Timing refers to the movement and position of both the needle and bobbin case as the needle moves down into the bobbin to form a stitch. As you probably know, a stitch is formed as the top thread pulls the bobbin thread up, and the bobbin thread pulls the sewing thread down. If your machine can form a stitch when the feed dogs are engaged, it is probably not the timing. If your machine is only a few months old - review your manual carefully. Double-check heck all the recommended settings for free motion - tension, presser foot pressure (if adjustable on your machine), needle position, stitch length and stitch width. Push the lever that lowers your feed dogs into the down position again to make sure it is all the way in the down position (those levers can stick sometimes, especially the first few times you move them). It is really easy to miss a small adjustment that creates havoc if not set properly.

If you don't find a problem with your settings, check back with the repair shop and ask if the offer a warranty on their repair work. If you paid them to clean your machine and adjust the tensions, then you should be able to take it back and have their own work corrected at no charge. When you take the machine back in, bring a swatch of a straight stitch sewn with the feed dogs up (to show the correct tension) and a swatch of your free motion work (to show the problem). Note the tension settings you used on each swatch. If your shop does not offer a warranty on repairs, find a shop that does.

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Please feel free to comment if you'd like more information about timing and tension, or if you have other questions. Good luck!


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The tension adjustment on these machines just plain does not work! I spend more time trying to get it right than I do sewing. And yes, I do raise the presser foot when threading, make sure to get the thread over the hook, etc. It still does no good. A friend of mine also has one and he has given up trying to make it work and plans to sell it. Spent two hours today trying to get it right with no luck. Put the machine on the floor and got my old Singer 457 out of the attic, finished the project in half an hour.

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Good day!

please try this simple tips:

Good day!

A sewing machine operator can often help themselves when their machine does not operate properly.
Here are some simple instructions, which if properly used can save time and mechanics service calls.
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