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Coleman 5000 generator will not idle up under load

WHEN I PUT MY GENERATOR UNDER LOAD IT WILL NOT SPEED UP TO PRODUCE POWER

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Hi

You have to find the governor linkage.There is a spring adjusting by a screw to increese speed to get more power.Try to locate it.

best regards savumihai71

Posted on Feb 03, 2009

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