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There is a new Nikon flash, the SB28DX. Nikon tells me the only
difference is the compatibility with the D-1 Digital camera.
Anyone know differently?
Solution #1
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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Depends on the camera. On the F3, for example, the flash connects
directly to the analog voltage terminals of the photocell at the bottom of
the F3's mirror box. In effect the flash unit takes over the metering
function. The flash unit decides when it has seen enough light and turns
itself off, without looking for a quench signal from the camera body. I
don't know if the modern Nikon TTL flash units are similar, but it seems
like Nikon offloads at least some of the 3D-Matrix processing to the flash
unit, especially in the area of the monitor preflashes (otherwise you'd be
able to use the most advanced metering modes with any Nikon flash like an
SB-22s, but we already know you can't).
In these cases the flash would need to know about the reflectivity of the
sensor.
Paul
P.S. The greenish tinge on the D1's CCD is likely due to the Bayer-pattern
filter mask over the chip, which is 50% green, 25% red, 25% blue, IIRC.
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Solution #2
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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The SB28 will not do ttl on the D1. Only the 28DX does ttl on the D1.
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Solution #3
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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Wally, you need to shop around, especially with the mail order firms. I
paid around $90 less for my SB-28 through a New York mail order firm.
While Ritz is convenient - being a local store - their prices are normally
much higher than competing photo stores.
Bob
paid around $90 less for my SB-28 through a New York mail order firm.
While Ritz is convenient - being a local store - their prices are normally
much higher than competing photo stores.
Bob
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Solution #4
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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Ans: 80 or so dollars
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Solution #5
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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I have a problem with your explanation.
As I understand TTL flash metering it is the camera and not the flash that is
doing the metering. The camera can then just compensate for the reflectivity
of the CCD. Further the SB-28DX can be used on all film based Nikon cameras
(with an ISO shue). It would have to know if the camera was film based or
digital.
As I see it the difference between the two the SB-28DX can sync at 1/500
(normal sync) where the SB-28 can only sync at 1/250.
Peter
As I understand TTL flash metering it is the camera and not the flash that is
doing the metering. The camera can then just compensate for the reflectivity
of the CCD. Further the SB-28DX can be used on all film based Nikon cameras
(with an ISO shue). It would have to know if the camera was film based or
digital.
As I see it the difference between the two the SB-28DX can sync at 1/500
(normal sync) where the SB-28 can only sync at 1/250.
Peter
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Solution #6
posted on Aug 01, 2007
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Very true. The only difference between the two flashes is the ability for the
28DX model to properly meter with the D1. Recall that a TTL flash (like the
SB-28) relies upon literally reading reflectivity off the film while it is
being exposed. While the BACKINGS of various films are quite unique, the
emulsion side is remarkedly quite similar. Thus, a normal TTL flash expects a
very predictible reflection off emulsion. The D1 camera, however, is quite
different,--no emulsion! When you put a D1 on Bulb and spend a little time
looking inside with the lens removed, you see a wholly different thing,--the
CCD imager. That imager has a blue-greenish tinge to it and is clearly
different than any film emulsion you've ever seen. Thus, a convensional SB-28
would misread that reflected imager,--usually toward overexposing. The SB-28DX
has been modeled to expect both film emulsion and/or a CCD imager reflectivity
and adjust accordingly.
hope that helps! I've had both models (currently have the DX) and you won't
essentially see any feature differences. The DX model does have a slightly
different display as i recall for that added capability with the D1.
Dan Lindsay
28DX model to properly meter with the D1. Recall that a TTL flash (like the
SB-28) relies upon literally reading reflectivity off the film while it is
being exposed. While the BACKINGS of various films are quite unique, the
emulsion side is remarkedly quite similar. Thus, a normal TTL flash expects a
very predictible reflection off emulsion. The D1 camera, however, is quite
different,--no emulsion! When you put a D1 on Bulb and spend a little time
looking inside with the lens removed, you see a wholly different thing,--the
CCD imager. That imager has a blue-greenish tinge to it and is clearly
different than any film emulsion you've ever seen. Thus, a convensional SB-28
would misread that reflected imager,--usually toward overexposing. The SB-28DX
has been modeled to expect both film emulsion and/or a CCD imager reflectivity
and adjust accordingly.
hope that helps! I've had both models (currently have the DX) and you won't
essentially see any feature differences. The DX model does have a slightly
different display as i recall for that added capability with the D1.
Dan Lindsay
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