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NTL or ADSL?


By jessie25 - usenet poster


Could somebody please list the advantages/disadvantages of cable/ADSL
please?

A few particular questions:

1. NTL say ratio is 12:1 users, so bandwidth will never be a problem - Is
this right, and does it solve the bandwidth issue?

2. Is NTL cable prone to other users gaining easy access to my PC?

3. Can I run servers with NTL cable?

4. Is it a fixed IP address on NTL?

Thanks,

Scott
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Solution #1

posted on Aug 01, 2007
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In message <lZ_U7.21746$4z5.2256@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com SteveL <
Wires only adsl is released middle of Jan, and many ISPs will still be
able to accept you onto the wires only trial. Otherwise, you can do
what I've done, accept the usb offering, but plug the modem into a
Vigor 2200usb router.
(#)

I am getting a solid average ping of less than 20ms from
#.

I'm using a RISC OS system (32 bit Acorn technology with StrongARM
processor) without any problems - infact it's more configurable and
reliable than the Pentium/W98 box sitting under my desk.

Yes, this is a significant point. If I could have persuaded NTL to
put some copper into the ducts which run between their main fibre
trench and my house wall, I would have gone for that solution - for
about the same price (GBP39.99/month), I would have got the cable TV
and a second phone connection included with the broadband.

Upload speeds are dependant on line quality and cabled distance from
the telephone exchange - at greater than around 4km, RADSL may well be
reducing your upload speed.

Further advantages of adsl: Some suppliers include fixed ip in the
basic price (eg freedom2surf provide fixed ip at GBP39.99/month), and
this makes running servers a lot simpler (no DDNS to set up). Also,
AIUI (in other words, I might be wrong), cable is not a true 'always
on' service, whereas adsl can be set up to be 'always on'.

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And this is another...

Cable modem service are only available to a small proportion of the
population which, if you're not one of that small proportion, makes all
the advantages of NTL/BlueYonder as useful a the proverbial chocolate
teapot. Although ADSL isn't available to all, it's certainly more
widespread than the cable offerings (isn't it?)

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Paul
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Those questions have been answered but I'll add this.

Advantages with NTL:

1) With cable you can connect via ethernet. You aren't stuck with USB
which you are as things stand with ADSL at the moment. This is good
for two reasons.

a) Pings are better (for gaming I get 25-35) and the connection is
steadier. The internet is effectively on your LAN.
b) If you use non-windows OSs like Linux, BEOS, or FreeBSD then
there is no problem at all going online. Try getting USB drivers for
these systems

2) It's quite a bit cheaper. ??25 per month. That said, if you sign up
in some areas you have to get either a phone or basic TV package with
them. But even then it's still the same price as ADSL but you get some
TV channels thrown in. And before people scoff, I can see a use for
that. For example being able to watch one non-terrestrial channel
while recording another

Advantage with ADSL:

This is a rock solid advantage. Upload speeds with ADSL are 256kps but
with NTL it's only 128kps. That's probably a killer advantage for you
since you want to run servers.
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Technically I can't fault NTL. Their CS on the other hand...

In this they seem to be the reverse of BT (I don't know about BTO), BT's
customer service is good (if you can get through their menu system to a
real person) and they even follow up on complaints, technically they are
not so good.

They aren't the only ones, several sectors have having similar problems.

Indeed, and there are some who would love to snap it up.

I don't think you are protected by your contract from changes in terms
after a takeover, except that it gives you an 'out' if you want to leave
(NTL's BB contract is for 12 months). The same with employment, they
can change the terms and all you can do is leave if you don't like them
(BTDT)...

Chris C
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At the moment, it could get worse if there is massive takeup (which in
the short term at least is not likely).

No more so than any "always-on" service. Run a good firewall.

Yes, but since you only have a dynamic IP address which can change you
need to have dynamic DNS hosting. Also, if you are using a lot of
bandwidth constantly they may clamp down in future (it's not written
out).

No, it's dynamic. In practice, though, some people have had the same
address for weeks.

Chris C
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Are you SERIOUS??

With all the new about NTL at the moment, would you HONESTLY sign up
to them?

Besides - I was under the impression they are not taking on new orders
nationwide?

Aj

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