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Posted on Feb 01, 2009

Pfaff 7570 Tension Problem

I've been trying to do some free motion quilting and my top thread keeps looping on the bottom side of the fabric (and I mean BIG loops). I've tried playing with the tension, threading and re-threading the machine, changing threads and just about anything else I can think of. This is one of those intermittent problems. I had the machine in for service for this exact issue a few months ago and they thought it was fixed. At this point I'm 'dead in the water' on all the projects I'm working on so any help would be greatly appreciated.

  • Sylvie Bernard
    Sylvie Bernard Feb 01, 2009

    Hello,



    I have been experiencing the same problem trying to stipple with my Pfaff 7550. I'm using a 3 cord all cotton thread top and bobbin. Have posted my problem with SewTechWayne, who was very helpful with adjusting the presser foot lifter. Will forward his solution when it comes.



    Good luck!

    Sylvie @ [email protected]

  • Anonymous Mar 23, 2014

    I am having BIG problems with thread looping while trying to do free motion quilting. (on the back side but it is my top thread). If I lower pressure foot fabric will not move but with foot up thread bunches. HELP!!!!

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Thank you for your help. Actually I was having so much problem that I took the machine to a technician, which diagnosed a few problems. One of them was a big chunk of threads caught in the tension dials. He also told me that I was using a thread that was too heavy which is an all cotton 3 ply, thicker actually then buttonhole thread. So, I've changed threads to an all pupose type Gutterman. The stippling isn't as nice, since much thinner but it solve the problem. If anyone could tell me exactly what type of thread they use and how to adjust the tension, I would very much appreciate it. You can also be sure that I will run a pipe cleaner down the tension dials once in a whileto make sure it's all clear.
Thanks again!

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You are threading this with the pressure foot in the down postion. So the tension is not engaging. clean the tension by running a pipe cleaner up and down the tension where the thread goes. it may have a piece of thread or lint in it.

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I had same problem. Use a single hole plate. It is not a standard accessory that comes with machine. You need to buy it. If that doesn't work, try a good quality thread for both the bobbin and the top thread.

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I have this problem sometimes and always discover that it happens when I've forgotten to lower the presser foot to the halfway position. I'm so focussed on the stitching that I don't notice it until I have a real mess.

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SOURCE: Pfaff Select 4.0 has looping on bottom of fabric, free motion qui

Make sure your are lowering the pressure foot first before you start sewing. With the free motion foot, you still have to lower the pressure foot, this allows tension to be put on the top thread and allows the foot to work properly (when the needle goes down so should the foot and when the needle comes up it should lift the foot up.)

Also make sure your tensions are in a middle setting and that you are threading the machine with the pressure foot up.

The way to insure you will not get your problem is with the foot up, you should be able to pull the thread easily right before the eye of the needle and when you put the foot down you should then feel a fair bit of tension on the top thread.

hope that helps :)
chris

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  5. Test with scrap fabric: Before quilting on your actual project, it's a good practice to test the tension on a scrap piece of fabric sandwiched in a similar manner. This allows you to make adjustments and fine-tune the tension without affecting your main project.
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Free motion Quilting Foot: part no.: 200-442-004 (MC6600P and MC11000)

Bobbin Holder (for free quilting and hand-look quiltstitch): part no.: 200-445-007 (MC 6600P, MC11000 and MC6500)

Bet you would love to have those too if you are doing a lot of free motion! The quiltfoot you can adjust so it works perfectly on your quilt!
:lol: :D :wink: I am sooooo happy!!!!"


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Make sure your are lowering the pressure foot first before you start sewing. With the free motion foot, you still have to lower the pressure foot, this allows tension to be put on the top thread and allows the foot to work properly (when the needle goes down so should the foot and when the needle comes up it should lift the foot up.)

Also make sure your tensions are in a middle setting and that you are threading the machine with the pressure foot up.

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