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Heater not coming on.

Main circuit breaker tripped.. Temps in the 20 F range caused about 1/8" of ice on the water surface. The blower seems to be running at a
very slow speed. Cannot get the heater or pump to come online.

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Sounds like the heater element is out. if you turn the breaker on and once the tub cycles on it trips the breaker again. it is definitely the heater element.

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My tub keeps tripping the breaker, but after it kools down I can trip the breaker back on, but it hits 100 and trips the breaker again, could this be the heater?


What Trips?
  • the "Actual" electrical circuit breaker?
    • Is it GFCI Style?
or...
  • Is the high limit switch tripping?,
    • which isn't actually a breaker.
  • A circuit breaker is a breaker that toggles as a switch, and to reset it you have to switch the toggle switch ALL the way to Off position to reset, then switch it to on.
    • Same thing if it were a GFCI style, it just has a 'Test' button on the body of the breaker, that button is usually a white rectangular button.
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A High Limit Switch, acts like a breaker, as it will trip when it senses a temperature greater that it is set for as a safe temperature. Once that temp is breached, it will trip.

So... Which one is tripping for you? What are you resetting to turn it back on?
if circuit breaker, it has nothing to do with the 100 degree temp you mentioned. If that trips,= electrical problem, either a short or overheated electrical appliance (internal wires) aging motor pulling too much current, loose electrical connections generate heat, etc.
if High Limit, then possible overheat of water? Many times, failed thermostat. I already know what you're thinking... But I never saw water get Hot! But... Many times that IS just the case , it's just you never noticed the water hot, and it has been cooling down when you saw it.

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I'm going on somewhat limited information here not knowing if the tub is newly installed or if this is a spa that has been working in the past and just started doing this. It would be helpful to know if this is a recently installed pump as well. That said here are a few things to check.
If it's a new install: Your electrician has more than likely wired the spa incorrectly. Be sure that the spa pack has 220V going into the pack and that the GFCI is wired correctly.
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120Volt or 240Volt?
Hardwire or plug-in-outlet?
Where is the GFCI? On the outlet or on the breaker?
Here is a starter:
http://waterheatertimer.org/See-inside-main-breaker-box.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GFCI.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-circuit-breaker.html

Are you connecting a new spa?
Or is old spa having problems?
Exactly which problems?
Or if the element getting wet and causing GFCI to trip?
Is circuit breaker tripped?
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You need to contact a hot tub technician/engineer as you clearly have issues.

'ICE' means that the water temperature is too low and therefore the pumps will be turned on to prevent freezing within the plumbing. Depending upon the spec and settings, the heater maybe disabled during 'ICE' condition.

'ECON' is Economy Mode. If you have a mode button, keep pressing it until you see 'Stan' on the display. This will put the system back into the standard mode.

'FLO' means that there's insufficient flow of water through the heater, or non at all. 1) Check the water level - top up if low. 2) Ensure that all jets are open and flow water - if they don't you may have a pump issue. 3) Remove the filter(s) and see whether or not this clears the fault, if so clean or replace the filters.

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