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Coleman 7000w gen. I have 120 on only one side of my 240 plug. I disconnected wire assembly from control box.. Could get 120 out of various combinations of the 4 wires but never 240. Should I be able to? Trying to determine if problem is at generator or control box. Thanks

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This is the same problem I am having, There are two sets of windings on the stator that are 180 degrees apart so you can get the 240 volts. By measuring the resistance of the exciter windings I found that one of the windings is open so half of the 240V is "missing. I have 600+ hours on the generator so there isn't any warranty. A new stator is $699. I'm going to buy a new generator rather than pay $600 to replace the stator..

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Hi,
At the wire assembly there should be 2 white and 2 black wires, a white and a black are the ends of one 110v winding. With the 2 white wires connected together you should get 240 from the black wires. This sounds like it is a problem with one of the circuit breakers in the 240v outlet in the control box, check them with an ohm meter.

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