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Water line on intermittent flash after trying to clear the steam

All attempts to clean &/or resolve this indicator light have failed. I have emptied & cleaned the brew group, cleaned out the bean tray & tried to reprime the steam line & this light is still flashing!!! Please help as I am missing my daily Latte:-)

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  • phong887 Feb 01, 2009

    same problem. light is flashing red

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I was able to fix the problem after reading your post.

I had lost my manual and found a copy of the instruction manual online. http://www.espressoitalia.com.au/viewStory/Coffee%20Machine%20Manuals

I read the instructions for de-scaling (page 15) and followed it EXACTLY the way it instructed me to.

The entire process took roughly 2.5-3 hours. I set an alarm to remind me to re-dispense the solution again (for 15 seconds) every 10 minutes.

I'm not sure if you skipped a few steps(I did the first time I went through it). If anything, the trick might be to hold the hot water button for 6 seconds to disable the de-scaling alarm.

Your de-scaling alarm probably hasn't been de-activated. ( To make sure I held the hot water button for about 15 seconds)

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