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Posted on Jan 28, 2009

Can a digital volt meter be used to estimate swr?

Since swr is a voltage standing wave ratio i was wondering if there was a way to convert voltage readings at the output into swr.

  • tdill49 Jan 30, 2009

    Thanks, I am an industrial engineer and can't help but experiment. I generally program PLC's in ladder logic or assembly lang.

    I used to be big into the CB biz when I was a teen and was just playing around with a little mobile.

    Thanks for the come back.

    Terry Dill

    Tupelo MS.

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No, Well. not easily that I am aware of. besides the other function of the SWR meter is to measure RF power.

Plus, the Meters are Cheap. it's not worth the bother.

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John Q president cb

Hi,

If by calibration, you are referring to the check if your antenna is tuned, below information may be of help.
S/RF/SWR/CAL SWITCH. When in the S/RF position, the meter swings
proportionally to the strength of the received signal. When transmitting,
the meter indicates relative RF output power.
When in the "CAL" position, the SWR meter can be calibrated by adjusting
the "SWR CAL" control to the "CAL" mark on the meter face.
When in the "SWR" position, the standing wave ratio is measured.

SWR METER. Measures standing wave ratio of the antenna system.
Used to properly adjust the length of the antenna and to monitor the
quality of the coaxial cable and all RF electrical connections. If there is any
degradation whatsoever in any of the foregoing, due to humidity, salt
spray, vibration or corrosion, the SWR meter reading will rise, thereby
indicating that a problem exists.
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switch, and adjust the SWR control to the "CAL" mark on the meter; then
switch to "SWR" position for the SWR measurement.

If however you are referring to the internal calibration or tuning of the transmit and receive sections, you would need several instruments/equipment such as RF generator (0-30Mhz with 1Khx modulation), Spectrum Analyzer, Modulation Scope, Dummy Loaded Wattmeter, Frequency Meter and some others. These of course are not readily available to the average user.

Hope this be of initial help/idea. Pls post back how things turned up or should you need additional information.

Good luck and kind regards.

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