Cimmaron one piece elongated doesn't have enough water in BOWL.
This is about insufficient water in the bowl. The tank fills up fine (within 3" of top of tank).
Any bowel movement strikes the china and smears. Even with the powerful flush action, the china remains dirty. Every use requires manual cleaning. Additionally, when the flush occurs, a splash of water shoots up and will strike the user. Not a pleasant situation.
Has anyone figured out how to fix this insufficient water in the bowl problem? These are brand new toilets and Kohler has not responded to my emails. I am sorely disappointed in Kohler at this time. Thanks for your help.
Re: Cimmaron one piece elongated doesn't have enough...
Make a small mark with a pencil or marker that can be erased of were your water line is in your bowl. Pour some water from a bucket into the bowl SLOWLY and see if the water line rises or drops back down to your original mark. If it drop back to the original mark, then that is the way the toilet was made. You won't be able to do anything about it. If it rises and stays at a higher level, then you have a problem with the fill tube in the tank. You will need to call a Pro!
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It sounds like there is a buildup of waste at the top of the trap in the toilet. A closet snake should resolve the problem. You do not have to snake more than a couple of feet of the drain if the buildup is at the top of the trap which is always dry. Try the closet snake and a couple of buckets of hot water while flushing the bowl. Rigid makes a good closet snake and is worth the cost. After clearing, make it a habit of holding down the lever until you hear the tank empty when flushing down solids. Especially with the 1.6 gallon tanks.
Check to see if there is not a clog in the trap. This could keep your bowl from filling up. Also check the flapper and see if it is staying afloat in the tank long enough during the flush. Either of these could be the cause here.
Three things can affect the flushing force of an ultraflush: 1. The amount of water going into the bowl from the tank. Check to make suer that the water level in the tank is up to the fill line. Normally the line is cast into the inside of the tank, but may be on the tube. Adjust if low. 2. The supply water pressure. An ultraflush requires 25 psig pressure to provide the assist in flushing. Make sure that your toilet water supply line valve (at the wall) is fully open. If so, check your water supply pressure. The easiest way is to install a gauge on an outside faucet (you can get a gauge in the sprinkler section of the hardware store, and it attaches to a faucet). You may need to replace your flexible water supply line; they can collapse internally, or get debris in them. 3. Restrictions in the outflow. A bit harder to check, but the tell-tale sign would be if the water level rises significantly, and drains slowly. My best guess is that the assist pressure is low, and I'd look for restrictions in the supply side first.
the tube that goes from the fill valve to the fill tube may not be installed correctly. the water must be going in the tube and not the tank. also it is a water conserving toilet so it uses less water also it is a comfort height toilet and to make it taller the bowl is extended so the water may seem even more shallow.
The water level in the bowl is determined by the built in trap in the back of the bowl. Water is allowed to enter the toilet and it then "over flows" the p trap in the back when flushed. Once it's flowing, it syphons the water out of the bowl. While the tank is re-filling, a small portion of water should be running down the overflow from the small hose clamped onto the overflow This rinses the inside of the bowl, as well as helps-refill the bowl. Be sure that hose is directed inside the overflow tube. To see what the max water level in the bowl can be, add some water from a cup or glass. Once it's full you can keep adding and it won't get any higher. This will be the max level you can expect.
2-Check tank fill level for required amount to with in 5/8" to top of over flow tube.
3-Make sure 1/4" fill tube is connected to over flow tube. From fill valve to overflow tube.
Below is a few details to go by I hope will be helpful for you to take care of this problem.
Under the rim of the bowl check the ports and make sure they are not stopped up. You can open them up with nail or pin to clean out ports.
Next check tank level and make sure the fill valve has a line run from it to top of the overflow tube. This line allows water to goe to bowl and tank to fill required amount needed.
Water in tank should be within 5/8" to top of over flow tube.
Is the fill line in the tank loose? Does it just shoot water into the tank itself? I had this issue until I realized the while fill tube is supposed to be pushed into the black cylinder/small plastic tube in the middle of the stopper assembly. After i pushed the line into the tube, the bowl would always only fill a little bit. Now it fills almost a 3rd of the way up the bowl and doesn't bubble during flushes.
The only adjustment available is to control how full the tank will be for the next flush. The water that runs down into the bowl after flushing comes through the same valve that fills the tank, so the problem (and solution) is entirely with the amount of water that runs into the bowl while the tank is filling. The tank is filling sooner than enough replacement water can run into the bowl. Make sure that the tube (usually a 1/2 inch rubber tube) that runs from the float valve to the pipe that fills the bowl (usually a 1 inch pipe with an open top) is actually delivering all of it's flow down that pipe. If the flow of water being delivered by that tube is slow, you will have to find and eliminate the restriction. You might be able to pull of the rubbber tube off of the float valve and stick a small drill bit (just using your fingers, not a drill) into the fitting where you pulled off the tube.
Is it not refilling the tank or the bowl? I've got a toto also that is not fully refilling the bowl after each flush. No leaks or other problems. Tank refills fine. Seems that the flapper doesn't float long enough to allow a sufficient amount of water to drain into the bowl before closing. Any ideas?
Its usually better to buy the set, but if you don't want too that's fine. As long as the water capacity of your old tank is what the new bowl requires. If you look at the set at the store, it will usually tell you the water capacity and specs of the new bowl. Although most bowls use the same holes and bolts to combine the tank and bowl, make sure the old tank will fit on the new bowl you selected.