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Washer gets no power

I have an older Kenmore Elite top-load washer with an unknown model number. No place on this machine can I find a model number. It has quiet control and extra large capacity. There is a spin-type timer that when pulled out, starts the wash cycle. I had used the machine on Sunday with no problems, but yesterday, I spun the dial to ''permanent press'' cycle and pulled dial out to start the wash, and nothing. No noise, no pop, no water. Tried the breaker, thought I might have tripped it, but it was set just fine, power is going to the outlet. My husband removed the timer mechanism, Part # 3954810
but I don't even know if that is what controls the power to the machine. If I could find a model number, I know that would help, but I tried a couple of different numbers stamped on the machine, and inside the lid, but Sears didn't recognize either as a model number. I would appreciate any assistance with this problem. Thanks in advance.

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  • scb12601 Feb 02, 2009

    The outlet has power, the dryer works fine in either one, and it seems that the "spin cycle" works too, it just won't start the was from the beginning for whatever reason. So possibly the timer? It's an expensive part, $104.00 from sears, so I'd hate to order it, just to find that doesn't fix it, ya know what I mean? It's like a third of the cost of a whole new machine. Thank you for your imput. I hope this is indeed the problem.

  • scb12601 Feb 03, 2009

    Ok, now the washer, after taking apart the timer and putting it back together, will fill and spin/drain, but won't agitate. Go friggin figure. It seems that the problem is morphing as the thing is taken apart and put back together. So worst case scenario, I can rinse and spin clothes to "freshen". LOL. It gets both hot and cold water, so It just seems that now it doesn't want to "wash".

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Are you sure the outlet has power? make certain by plugging in a lamp or something else to the outlet first. the timer does have to get power to turn on the unit, but its not likely it is the problem.
try a different cycle and see if it wont run on any position. like fill, wash or spin. then if your outlet is ok, it could be the timer.
i dont think it is but it could happen. usually if the timer fails, it will work on some cycles but not all of them. if it wont work on any cycle then i would expect the outlet first.

Posted on Jan 31, 2009

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    Tom Zwiebel Feb 03, 2009

    ok so it sounds like we are dealing with a washer that just wont fill. and it wont agitate until the unit thinks its full of water.
    now you should check to see if you can find the water level/pressure switch. it is what adjusts the amount of water in the unit. it has a clear plastic hose and 3 wires going to it, on the left side of control panel. take the hose off of it and lightly blow into the switch, you should be able to hear a click when enough pressure is forced into the switch and thats when the unit should agitate. now try it with the unit set to the fill cycle. if it does agitate, then go to checking the water valve.
    make sure you do have the water turned onto the unit and that water valve screens are not plugged. not likely as you would get hot or cold but do check where the hose hooks up to the plastic valve, inside you will find the screens.
    also make sure you check to see if it will fill with hot. and then try cold. you are trying to see if just one side of the water inlet valve is bad. usually both hot and cold wont fail at the same time.
    if after these checks then you still dont get any water filling, then it also could have a water temperature control board. called an ATC, these very rarely fail, but im trying to get you to check everything else before you replace the timer.
    it is possible the timer may have failed, but its not a normal type of failure for the timer, but anything can happen.
    let me know what you find next and we will go from there.
    tom


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    Tom Zwiebel Feb 04, 2009

    lets go back to the possibility of a timer failure. when you had the timer apart, did you see any of the switching contacts that looked burnt or blown out? thats what usually will cause no power to let it agitate.
    the other thing is the pressure switch, when the timer tells the unit to fill, it sends power to the p/switch and then fills until it"clicks" and lets power back to the motor. so did the p/switch stop the fill and then you hear nothing? if the p/switch does stop the water fill, then i would go back to the timer as the most likely cause.



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