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Can I install on a 20 amp circuit with a 15 amp GFCI plug? The unit says 120 v 6 amp max

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Jan 2013
1) Yes. With 6 amps.
It is not purely code, but generally not dangerous.
Most household outlets and switches sold at home center are actually rated 15 amp, and should be on a 15 amp breaker. just don't overload.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Color-codewire.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Troubleshoot-household-electricity.html#heat

2) However if you are running close-to or higher amps than 15 amps, such as space heater (volts x amps = watts), then I would suggest installing 20 amp arc-fault breaker, and protect whole circuit.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GFCI.html#arc-fault

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Are you installing arc fault breaker?
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-wire-GFCI.html#arc-fault
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Code says Maximum 12 boxes per circuit breaker.

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