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Background hiss in fender hot rod deluxe tube amplifier

Is this normal, how loud should it be?

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Ah yes, the Fender Hot Rod Deluxe. I have seen more of these in my shop than any other amplifier!! I have even sent recomendations for design changes to Fender about this amplifier.
Sadly, your amp tech may be correct: while the amp is within working specs, you can still have an issue with a bad socket. The cheapest thing to try is to replace the preamp tube(s) you think may be causing the problem. If the problem persists, it may need to be serviced on this issue (by a different 'certified Fender tech'). In defense of the last tech you had work on this amp, these amplifiers have a brittle design and do not gig or travel well (there are a minority of these amps made that do perform). Fender tried to do too much for the price on this model: best advice is to fix it, sell it and get your tone with a more stable model made by Fender (like the new vintage re-issues). Fender, like Marshall, has for years been having problems when they get too far from thier 'working reciepe' of what made them great companies.
You likely have a socket that needs re-tensioned, or a preamp tube not behaving. If it is not these, then a tech had to dive in the house of cards that is this circuit. Sorry for the bad news on this, but it is the truth. I only take on Hot Rods that 'appear' to be fixable. I am a development engineer, build amps from scratch and fix them for the local music shops, and my success rate is a dismal 60%-ish percent on these...
Thanks,-mike

Posted on Mar 30, 2009

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First try turning the volume control down before turning switch to operate.

IF this seems to fix it, IF the unit has a tank reverb, the vibration of the reverb springs MAY be causing the problem. The solution then is to reduce the volume before applying power WHICH is a good idea anyway... from an electrical engineer.

Posted on Jul 26, 2009

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More than likely a bad solder joint. Where is the next question. How confident are you with voltage measurments? The rails in tube amps are high and can kill you so if you are not inclined to do so please don't. The reason I suspect a solder joint is that it is a failure over time, cold solder joints expand and contract with heat. When they heat up they break connection. Not saying 100% that is your problem but it is very likley.

Posted on Dec 14, 2009

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poosibly the tube sockets are not holding the tube in place anymore. Usually the Fender's have a spring loaded carriage so to speak that hold tubes in place.

Posted on Apr 01, 2010

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I want you to do a test. while using the amp plug a pair of headphones into the preamp out... note you will only hear stuff on one side if they are stereo phones and the sound may be fairly weak... while the unit is operating correctely then unplug phones and use it. When it fades out plug in phones compare the level when it was OK... If the preamp output fades lower as well, then we know problem is in the preamp section...

We can do a lot of troubleshooting without opening the amp.

I see nothing in the scheamtics that should be an issue causing this...

Since it didn't fail for the tech, think "what was different?". Are you connecting something else? Foot pedal? Temperature? :Loudness of playing?

Now what else is in common to these two units... AHA! The guitar...

If your guitar has a battery in it, the 20 to 30 minutes fading would correspond to a battery failing and then recovering after you unplug the guitar for a while.

Posted on Apr 24, 2010

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