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Can't remove blower wheel, thwacking noise, burning smell

Hi, We're getting a repetitive thwacking noise in our dryer, like a string or something is caught in the blower wheel or outside the drum, plus a burning smell. I pulled off the back and the lint duct. When I say lint duct, I mean the solid metal duct inside the dryer, not the hose outside. I can't figure out how to take the blower wheel off. I least I think it's called a blower wheel; it's a white plastic fan with no nut in the middle, and it won't pull off. There's a sticker on the lint duct that says "To remove blower wheel, hold motor shaft/blower shaft and turn wheel clockwise." Well, I don't even know how to get to the motor shaft/blower shaft.  Help! Thanks!!

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  • danielwillem Jan 29, 2009

    Very helpful. Thanks!

  • danielwillem Feb 02, 2009

    I unscrewed the two small brackets at the back, and the screws in the lint catch, but I still couldn't lift the top. Does it hinge at the front or the back? Should I take a chisel to the crack between the top and the sides to force it open?

  • danielwillem Feb 03, 2009

    It's good to have the schematics, but they don't show me how to lift the top. How do I lift the top?

  • danielwillem Feb 03, 2009

    RE: solution from MNFisherman "VISEGRIPS will work well by holding one end and then pliers or wrench to turn other end," sounds like you're talking about how to remove the blower fan, which is great, but I'm still trying to lift the top of the dryer. I unscrewed the brackets at the back, but it's stuck solid. How do I lift the top?

  • danielwillem Feb 03, 2009

    It is a Whirlpool Ultimate Care II, model LEQ8000JQ2.

  • danielwillem Feb 06, 2009

    With the back off, we tipped the dryer, and out falls a bent safety pin and a collar stay. After that, it no longer made the burning smell or the thwacking sound. I could still hear coins rattling. I finally got the top lifted--with a flashlight, I could see the plastic brackets at the front corners through the crack between the top and the front. I depressed the center portion of each bracket with a small screwdriver to pop the catch, and then levered the top open with another screwdriver. The belt looked fine. I couldn't see the coins, but after spinning the barrel a few times, 5 coins fell into the clothing compartment. The dryer works fine now.

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You should be able to see the whole thing if you pull off the back cover. SOunds like a string like you said, or a belt that has split, or torn, and the broken piece is slapping around as the barrell turns. You want to get in there where you can see it. So try taking off the rear panel and looking inside? Let me know if this doesn't help. TT

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VISEGRIPS will work well by holding one end and then pliers or wrench to turn other end

Posted on Feb 02, 2009

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    Nate Stansfield Feb 03, 2009

    There should be two clips holding the top of the washer down. You will need to pry both clips out at the same time while putting pressure on the lid.




  • Nate Stansfield
    Nate Stansfield Feb 03, 2009

    there should be two more clips at the front.

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A heavy thumping sound coming from the dryer while it is running is a clear sign that your drum belt or roller needs repair.

The drum of the dryer is usually turned by a motor-and-belt assembly. There are two very clear signs that the belt is malfunctioning: You can easily spin the drum by hand when the dryer is off, or you hear a heavy thumping sound coming from the drum when the dryer is running. Here's how to test and replace the drum belt:

Step 1: Locate the belt by removing the back or front service panel. Depending on the type of dryer you own, you may have to prop up the drum to keep it from sagging. Don't let the drum hang; the bolts that hold it in the cabinet could be damaged. Don't remove any more parts than necessary.

Step 2: Identify the belt. The old belt may be threaded around the idler pulley and motor drive shaft. Draw a diagram showing how the pulley is installed so you'll be able to replace it properly. If the old belt is worn or frayed, but not broken, leave it around the drum as a pattern for positioning the new belt; cut the old belt and remove it when the new belt is in position.

Step 3: Remove the old belt from the pulleys and stretch the replacement belt into place. The new belt must extend around the dryer drum and the pulleys. The trick is to align the belt on the drum with the pulleys -- the ribs on the new belt go against the drum.

Step 4: Once the belt is aligned, turn the drum by hand, if possible, to make sure the belt is tracking. You may have to reassemble part of the cabinet to do this.

Some older dryers have a V-belt pulley drum drive. With this system, two or three pulleys of different sizes set the speed of the drum. To change this type of belt, decrease the tension on the idler pulley and install the new belt in the V-grooves of all pulleys. Then place the idler pulley back into position.
With any dryer, make absolutely sure that you replace the old belt with a new one made especially for the dryer. Any difference in belts can change the speed of the drum and cause problems with other dryer components.

Servicing the Drum Bearing

With the back service panel off, check the drum bearing around the dryer drum shaft. You may have to remove the dryer belt to reach it. If the bearing looks worn and dirty, or if it's loose, it should be replaced with a new bearing made for the dryer.

A screw in the center of the drum connects the shaft to the drum. Remove this assembly and then lift off the drum pulley. Support the drum to prevent it from sagging. The bearing fits around the drum shaft and is slip-fit. Pull off the old bearing and install the new one, securing it the same way the old one was held.

On some dryers, the bearing and shaft are held by a U-bolt, and there are two tapered blocks supporting the bearing and shaft. Remove the bearing by first removing the U-bolt and blocks.

When reassembling the bearing unit, make sure the parts go back together the way they came apart. If the part is assembled with shims, the shims should be placed between the bearing and the support channels. Do not overtighten the screws holding the parts; overtightening could cause damage to the bearing. If the bearing has a lubrication wick, saturate it with auto transmission oil.

Servicing the Drum Rollers

The front of the dryer's drum is usually supported by two rollers. These wheels are either metal with a rubber rim or pressed nylon. If the rollers squeak but appear to be in good condition, apply a few drops of 20-weight nondetergent motor oil (not all-purpose oil) to them. If the rollers are worn, you can replace them if the roller assembly is not riveted. To replace drum rollers:

Step 1: Remove the front of the cabinet. Rollers are usually held on a metal shaft by a spring clip.

Step 2: Remove the rollers by prying the spring clip off with a screwdriver. Under the clip are a washer, the rollers, and another washer. You might have to remove a small nut at the back of the shaft and remove the shaft itself to reach the rollers. Remove the rollers from the shaft and clean away built-up lint and dirt before installing the new roller. This dirt and lint buildup could cause the drum to turn slowly or thump, which prevents proper drying and strains other dryer components.

Step 3: Install the new rollers on the shaft with the washers in the same position.


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    blueextc3221 Feb 02, 2009

    REPLACING THE BLOWER MOTOR

    This is a fairly complex repair as almost everything had to be removed to get to the blower motor.

    Tip - Keep track of the screws and where they came out. We taped the screws to the parts they came out of making re-assembly much easier.

    Needs a #2 screwdriver. A #1 is too small and can strip the screws.

    First remove the control panel and disconnect all the wires. Open the platic power box and disconnect all the connecting wires and disconnect the three ground wires from the back of the dryer.

    You need to remove the top of the Dryer. It has 2 screws in the read and clips at the front. Under that is a metal plate. To remove this, first pop out the plastic connectors that hold the wiring up. Remove the screws from the 2 long plastic pieces on each side. Slide the plastic connectors to release, then remove them and remove the top.

    You should now be able to see the dryer drum.

    Front - Remove the two metal triangle pieces at the front top of the dryer.

    Remove the door by removing the hinges.

    Disconnect wiring for light and door switch - we had a problem disconnecting the door switch, so left it connected - which meant that once the front of the dryer was removed, it couldn;t be moved away. Not a big problem, but a little inconvenient.

    Be careful with the door switch.

    Remove the front of the dryer.

    Take out the lint trap.

    Unscrew the metal plate from the front of the blower.

    You should now be able to reach underneath and feel the belt that turns the drum. This belt goes all the way around the drum and then down underneath to another motor. There is a tension bar that keeps the belt tight. Before removing the belt - make sure you know how the belt goes around the motor and tension bar - you'll need to reconnect it later.

    Once the belt is free - you can remove the drum.

    Disconnect the wiring for the blower motor and unscrew the blower motor from the base of the dryer.

    Remove the nut on the front to remove the plastic fan cover. Remove clamps to release motor.

    Replace part and reassemble.




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In my expereince with this dryer if it is several years old the blower wheel will not come off at all due to the constant heating and cooling of th eplastic it may seize to the shaft. you atually may have to use a hammer and chisel to bust the hub of the blower shaft to remove it.
But i have a 2nd possibilty for the noise you are hearing. there are plastic baffles that are on the inside of the drum that may work loose. the screws for these baffles are on the outside of the drum and can be accessed with the lid to the dryer lifted up. pull lint screen out remove the 2 philips srews then gently release the 2 clips at either outside corner to raise lid. hope that helps peyton

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    peyton thompson Feb 02, 2009

    if you will look in the crack on the right and left corner there should be clips that you can push in on and release the lid. it is kind of hard to do but if you work at it it will come loose. I agree with the other experts here that while you have it pulled apart check your rollers and belt to be sure everything is in place and not worn. let me know if you need more help. peyton

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    peyton thompson Feb 02, 2009

    it hinges at teh rear so you need to reinstall the 2 brackets in the rear. sorry I missed that in your last post..

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    peyton thompson Feb 03, 2009

    if you can give me a complete model number I can look it up and possibly point you in the right direction. the model number is located on the frame around the door. peyton

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It sounds like it may be the drum belt that is the problem and not the blower,but here is an illustration for removing the blower fan.

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Posted on Jan 27, 2009

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    Randy Hough Feb 02, 2009

    Reply with the make and model and I will send you a link to the Manual or be better able to assist.

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    Randy Hough Feb 03, 2009

    The top can just be popped off by using a screw driver in the crease and prying open all the way around.(you will need to remove the screws in the lint trap if it's located on the top)

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Welcome to Fixya! That is your Problem. These can Sometimes get Coins and things inside them. Just Follow the Directions for Removal and it will come right off. It is the Plastic Circle that Attaches to the Exhaust Outlet inside the Dryer. If it will not Release, There are Screws on all sides for Complete Removal.

Posted on Jan 27, 2009

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    Travis Humphries Jan 27, 2009

    The Blower Shaft is the Part of the Wheel that The Fan is Attached too.

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I would start by taking off the top and checking the belt to see if part of it tore and is hitting the inside of the cabinet. I have not found a real good way to get the blowers out without having to break them sometimes. the part of the blower that you have to hold is access through the front behind the motor. problem is when you turn the motor shaft, the wrench strips out on the blower, then you have to break them, but unless you need a new motor, it should not have to come off.

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Why is it making noise and smelling like something burning?


DRYER MAKES NOISES.



A loose or worn BELT can make funny noises

Or the idler pulley that puts tension on the dryer drum drive belt could be worn out. If the pulley is bad we recommend also replacing the belt.



The glides on drum worn and making metal to metal contact.

The drum slides or glides support the front of the drum. As the drum rotates over the years, the glides wear out and then the dryer makes noise. Replace all of the glides as a set if they are worn out.



CHECK FOR LOOSE BELLOES inside the drum



Sometimes an item can get stuck inbetween the drum and the housing and scrape and grind making funny noises, things like coins, bra wire, nails, hair pins, etc sometimes u can just remove the cabinet and observe by turning the drum by hand or looking for scratch or scrape marks on housing.



The blower:



Clumps of lint, socks, and other small articles of clothing can get past the lint filter and into the blower wheel. If the dryer makes noise, and the noise seems to be at a very fast pace, there might be something caught in the blower wheel. In addition, the blower wheel sleeve might be worn out, allowing the blower wheel to wobble on the motor shaft. If this happens, replace the blower wheel.



The bearings:

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The bearings TEST by moving drum by hand u may be able to feel loose or rough movement. And listen to sounds when turning it.



The drum rollers or castors:



It is very common for dryer drum rollers to wear out. If the dryer makes noise, particularly a loud rumbling noise, one or more of the rollers may be worn out. After removing the drum from the dryer, inspect the rollers.

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