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Chip set can i replace a heat sink on the chip set

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Generally yes. But if Foxconn glued the heatsink on, then it is problematic at best.

Usually the chipset heatsinks are not glued but do use some type of thermal tape or paste that transfers heat to the heatsink. There are typically two plastic inserts or screws that go from the heatsink THRU the motherboard and come out on the other side. This will require you to remove the motherboard form the PC case to do this mod.

You remove the heatsink, clean up the contact area with 90+% isopropyl alchohol with a lint-free cloth until the original goo is removed. Put a small amount of your new thermal paste such as Arctic Silver 5 (AS5) (about the size of a grain of rice) and spread it even over the chip's contact area with a credit card edge or other straight plastic edge tool. Using a baggie over your finger, smear a very thin coating of AS5 (or other) onto the bottom of the new heatsink. Put it all back together again and you should be good to go.

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because it could dissolve, soften or contaminate it.

The alcohol will NOT hurt the metal heat-sink, nor the
ceramic top of the CPU.

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release the socket lever on the socket FIRST.

The CPU should slide in and out of the socket without
ANY force what so ever, and make sure that PIN-1
and the shamfered corner are oriented correctly !!!

If you plug in the CPU the wrong way, and power it up,
it is GAME OVER !!!

d) Take extreme care not to STATIC zap the mother board,
or the CPU. Wrap a thin bare wire around your wrist,
and connect the other end to the computer case,
before handling ANY electronic parts.

(With the computer still turned off and unplugged :)

This is EXTREMELY important, because your body
can accumulate a very small charge at a very high
voltage of several thousand volts before you even feel
a tingle, and when discharged can fry or injure every
chip on the board.

do NOT remove the mother board from the box just
to change the chip, if you can possibly avoid it.
Handling motherboards is ALWAYS risky due to
the risk of static as well as flexing the board and
braking internal "plate-through-hole" connections.

I am an expert many times over so please take my
word for it.

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heat sink and the CPU.

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to keep the CPU from overheating.

Many people skip this important step, but if your CPU
overheats, it won;t last long.

The heat-sink compound is available from any electronic
or computer shop.

6) Make sure that you clean and reconnect the CPU fan,
and check that it is working properly.

7) Make sure that your power supply is strong enough to
provide the additional current required by a faster CPU.

Keep in mind, that the amount of power consumed, and
heat generated by the CPU is directly proportional to
frequency and to the square of the operating voltage.

Also, faster CPU's never last as long as slower ones,
due to increased nano-scale current densities and
atomic scale erosion due to these currents. Although
the currents are miniscule from our point of view, so are
the circuit geometries, and if you do the math, (I have)
the effect of sending some of these internal currents
through the nanometer-sized conductors is like forcing
the Mississippi river through a half inch pipe.

The sheer momentum of the electrons is sufficient to
knock whole atoms out place and slowly erode the
tiny semiconductor structures.

All chips WILL fail in time. The faster they run the sooner
they fail, but hopefully "after" they become obsolete.

8) So make sure you have enough fans to keep things cool.

9) Finally it is good to identify your speed bottle necks,
before you start changing things, for example:

If the RAM is marginal, it will not run reliably at the
increased bus speeds. The mother board (BIOS)
compensates for this when calculating the timing
settings, and increases the number of bus-cycle wait
states. The net result is that your faster CPU can result,
in a slower computer under some conditions.

Another thing people tend to ignore is the amount of RAM.
RAM is 10,000,000x faster then hard disk.

When a computer (Windows) starts running out of RAM,
it begins to swap less used data to hard disk, in a process
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called thrashing. A thrashing computer can take hours or
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seconds.

Increasing the speed of the CPU by 20% often doubles the
cost. The same amount of money is put to better use
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more impressive results.

For a Pentium-4 based XP machine I recommend 2 Gigs
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IT is possible to configure windows to use a little more, by
setting the /3GB or the /uservalu= switch within the boot.ini
file but this can lead to unforeseen complications.

The problem with 64-bit windows is that it still has limited,
driver support and you need a 64-bit motherboart/CPU
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Good luck, please rate my answers.

Martin






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