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Hooking 901 bose serires VI to denon avr 3805

Can you please help me with a solution to hook up my bose speakers 901 series VI to my Denon AVR 3805. The denon does not have a Tape monitor. But If can can use pre amp out and main amp I could go that route. Unfortunately I could not identify these adapters on my Denon AVR 3805. Thanks in advance.

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  • rhod28 Jan 28, 2009

    I am not sure what that would do.

    1-The main issue is for the signal to go through the bose EQ before it gets to the speakers.

    2-Could I have a diagram of how that would work.

    3-How would any other signal source (such as optical) go through that EQ channnel. Tape monitor (when it is on ) cancels all other channels and everything goes through the EQ. Pre AMP in and Pre main amp just equalizes all signal through Bose EQ. Maybe I am confused. Enlight me.

  • rhod28 Jan 28, 2009


    findmeifucan sound good but where would I place the IN from the equalizer so every signal goes through that same channel even optical one so they can be equlized by Bose EQ. Do I make sense? I can play through the speakers with no prblems but I need to play equalized soud using the Bose EQ.

  • rhod28 Jan 28, 2009

    what kind of cable.

  • rhod28 Feb 03, 2009

    I have decided to go with and external amp to hook up the 901 Bose speakers to the pre out of the denon 3805 . Any suggestion suggestion of a good amplifier that could do that with no annoying hummm... and big delay.

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THIS IS TAKEN FROM THE USER MANUAL PAGE 10...

Use these instructions:
• for stereo-only operation if your receiver does not have a TAPE MONITOR connection.
• if you are using a surround sound receiver that has a section on the back marked PRE
AMP OUT/MAIN AMP IN. The jacks may be labeled ADAPTER or SIGNAL PROCESSOR.


Note:
If your receiver does not have this PRE AMP OUT/MAIN AMP IN section, the 901
speakers will not be usable in your home theater system.


Your Denon reciever (MANUAL) does have a "EXT IN", and should be able to be used the way you want.

Using THIS PICTURE of the rear of your reciever, you have the required input, labelled EXT IN on the lower left side.


However, the EXT IN will bypass the denon equalization, and give the raw signal to the bose system.

You will need 2 sets of red/white RCA cables.

Set 1 goes....
FROM BOSE - "Amplifier Connections" (from amp)
TO DENON - "Pre Out" Zone 3 - (Bottom Left)

Set 2 Goes....
FROM BOSE - Amplifier Connections" (to...)
TO DENON - "EXT IN" - (SR and SL) just above Zone 3 pre-outs.


To listen to the bose, your DENON must have Zone 3 selected.


This connection is pictured in the BOSE USER MANUAL on page 11 (Figure 7)

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Posted on Jan 28, 2009

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    Component RCA Cables

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Denon has a jack section in the back labeled 'multi ch in',You need to connect the output from your Bose to the left and right channels of the multi channel inputs. This is an input directly to the amplifier section of the Denon, bypassing any processor modifications to the signal.

Posted on Jan 27, 2009

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Hi,
You can use LINE OUT jacks as alternate of Tape Monitor.

Posted on Jan 27, 2009

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    Shahid Electronics Jan 28, 2009

    Hi,
    AVR-3805 already have built-in equalizer that's why you can not hook another equalizer with it. It is 7.1 surround system.
    Bose Equalizer is designed for old fashioned amplifiers that has no built-in equalizer facility.
    Please use Bose speakers by hooking directly. There is no way to use equalizer with AVR-3805
    Thanks.


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Hi and welcome to FixYa,

The 901 speakers could still be hooked up as FRONT (but the equalizer is a redundancy if you want it integrated to the Denon AVR 3805 plus internal mods are needed).

Or

Wire the 901 as a separate feed from any of the PRE-OUT (except the SUB WOOFER) attach the OUTPUT of the Bose equalizer to its own stereo amplifier that will use the 901 speakers.

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Posted on Jan 30, 2009

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    Louie Role Feb 03, 2009

    Hi again and hope that you were commenting on my suggestion of a separate amp for the 901 equalizer and speakers. Most known brands would serve the purpose and would further suggest a plain stereo amp with volume controls (nothing more). The rationale is if an amp with Dolby processing or other sound processing is used with the Bose equalizer, then again, it's back to the redundancy of sound processing. Power wise, it should be equal to or slightly less than what the Bose Speakers are capable of.

    To address the humming sound, a few ideas to consider:


    • select/use high grade RCA to RCA cables;

    • use polarized power plugs and power strip;

    • use a common/ground strip.
    Cheers.


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Try to reset all setting to factory defaults.

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Your not going to get Dolby 7.1 through the Bose equalizer. You can use the Bose equalizer to balance equalize the front two, or rear two, speakers.

But, I wouldn't use the Bose equalizer at all. Use the equalizer from the Denon.

Be sure and use a sound level meter and sound alignment CD to set all this up. You'll be glad you did.

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The denon/bose hook up can be a headache. they just don't mesh well. you can order an adater cable from Bose to fix this problem.

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Bose 901 does not work on all system .

you need to call Bose to find out.

Posted on Jan 28, 2009

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    Ginko Jan 30, 2009

    As I told you, Bose 901 may not work on this system .

    you need to call Bose first to find out.


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    Ginko Feb 03, 2009

    To get the best result with this speakers it is better to buy a Bose Amp, I know they are expensive, but...

    Regarding the speakers and the original problem, this article may be of some interest.


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On the back is a set of jacks labeled pre-out. This is the source to feed to the Bose Eqs. You will require external amplifiers to drive the speakers

There is no way to utilize both the pre-amp section and amplifier section of this unit with an external EQ as you would like.

Dan

Posted on Jan 30, 2009

  • ABRsvcs Feb 03, 2009

    ANy high quality amp will work just fine. There is no need for a Bose specific amp. The requirement for the 901 is the EQ which compensates for the sweetspots of the speaker system itself. With the EQ inserted, a standard amp will be fine.



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