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Color laser printers. Costs for toner vs. initial costs for ptr

We publish a very small color boutique "magazine" on a quarterly basis (about 150 copies). We initially printed to a postscript HP inkjet printer (it was about $1000 when we purchased 10 years ago) and the cost for ink cartridges was relatively (read on) reasonable. We might spend $300-$400 for cartridges and ink heads for each issue. But it might take two weeks to print all the copies...the double sided part was a real delay and hassle.

A couple of years ago we purchased HP color laserjet printer (2605dn) which made a huge difference in printing time and hassle. It wasn't very expensive ($300ish). It prints double-sided pages and is so much faster. We are pleased with print quality (the publication includes lots of photos and colors). But we spend about $1200-$1500 each issue on toner cartridges. This just doesn't make financial sense anymore.

My thoughts are that we should invest in a more expensive higher end color laser jet printer that will hopefully not be so expensive on the toner side. (The cost of the printer can be amortized over the years. The expense and red ink each year cannot.)

Years ago this was the general rule of thumb: the cheaper the printer, the higher the recurring printing costs (toner/ink cartridges). Is this still the case? Can anyone suggest an HP color laser jet with duplex capabilities (and postscript), maybe that supports larger paper size too? Or even the first two items?

The costs currently for toner are still considerably cheaper than having this printed at a printer. But economically we're losing money and we have raised prices as much as we can in the disastrous marketplace that the world is today.

I would appreciate any information or suggestions that address the questions above.

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Have you thought about having your printer cartridges refilled? There are huge savings to be made in doing so and the quality can be just as good as the original cartridges (depending upon the refiller). Another option would be for you to purchase an older color laser printer such as the HP Color Laserjet 4500 or 4550. I use one myself and couldnt be happier with it. And as its an older printer, you can get the cartridges relatively cheap.

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