Common maytag neptune washers malfunctioning-R11/Q6+spin switch!!
Hi, As I mentioned it's the control board resistor that is burnt, but the guy who was here today mentioned spin switch? I wandered how much is it to replace it, since it's not included in the replacement kit i found online (that one is R11/Q6+wax motor), and where is it located on the board? Appreciate the response,thanks
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Yes if replacing the machine control board because of burnt resistor you do also replace the wax motor and spin switch.the spin switch and wax motor are next to each other in a bracket above where the door closes top of door jam.where the door lock mechanism are
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There is a small actuator that locks the door before the spin cycle located in the door latch assembly. This actuator is called a wax motor, Maytag part # 12002535 is the redesigned part. It works by heating a ball of wax up which causes the actuator pin to push out and lock the door. It takes around 45 seconds to extend so it is rather slow compared to a typical electromechanical solenoid. The older wax motors have a brown actuator pin while the newer version has a black actuator pin. The wax motor failure is caused by moisture penetrating the wax motor (older design) over time, which causes the electrical resistance to drop to such a value that the small Q6 triac located on the upper control board overheats and shorts out internally. The triac is essentially an electronic switch that is controlled by a low control voltage, which is provided ultimately by the processor U1. The R11 overheats because the failed Q6 is allowing 120 volts on the triac's center control pin. When this happens, R11 burns and opens up electrically. Sometimes Q6 still looks normal and other times the plastic case ruptures after the failure. However, a burnt R11 is the telltale sign that you have had this failure and the Neptune washer should be left off to prevent further damage to your upper control board. To inspect your control board you need to do the following:
1. Unplug your Neptune's power cord.
2. Remove three Philips screws along top of washer console.
3. Pull top of control console towards you while pushing bottom of console away from you.
4. Control board is located behind timer assembly on back panel.
5. Inspect the R11 resistor located near the left control board mounting screw.
If your R11 is burnt, you have two options. The first is to repair the control board and the second option is to replace the control board. To repair your control board you will need a 25-watt pencil type soldering iron, solder, diagonal cutters, needle nose pliers, replacement Q6 and R11 components. Whether you repair or replace control board I would not power up machine until the new wax motor is installed or you risk damaging your repaired or new control board again.
If you have not experienced the No-Spin problem consider yourself lucky because you are now aware of the issue and can replace the wax motor before you have a failure. You need to inspect your door lock wax motor and make sure you dont have the older style with the brown actuator pin. Note: If you identify that you have the older brown pin wax motor you need to replace it a.s.a.p. so you don't experience the R11/Q6 failure. I would not use machine until the original wax motor is replaced
I`m not sure which component you refer to by "Q6", but typically on the Maytag Neptune washer it is the resistors associated with the door lock assembly which burn out on the "machine control board" (not to be confused with the "motor control board" located under the basket/tub inside the cabinet). It should look like the image below.
You can usually examine the control via a visual inspection to confirm or dismiss any damage. Look for any sign of burnt resistor's, specifically one identified as R11 and one as R75 they are both part of the lock circuit and if damaged will prevent the washer from draining and spinning properly because the door lock won't engage. The control will need to be replaced if damaged as will the latch wax motor. (Unless you can identify the value of the resistor`s and take a gamble on a repair)
Check with a local or on-line part depot with your model number for specific part number's. Hope that help's, let me know. Thank's for visiting "fixya" and if this was helpful please leave a rating for the info I provided. Thank's again and good luck. macmarkus :)
most common issue with these is the door lock assy. You need to remove the control panel and check the R11 resistor on the board most likely it will be burnt. This was a common issue a few years back. If the R11 resistor is burnt you need to replace the door lock AND control board or your problem will occur again.
Maytag Neptune defective door latch wax motor update by: Anonymous
The older Neptunes, such as the 2000 Stackers, MAH3000, MAH4000 and the MAH5500A series had some issues which I am sure Maytag has corrected these issues in the newer machines...
There are thousands who have been burnt by the door latch wax motor failure. What happens is the machine will stop spinning because the door latch will fail to lock. Deep inside it is caused by the mechanism that locks the door. The wax motor will draw too much current and damage the control board by burning a resistor (R11) and a triac (Q6).
However, if Neptune owners know to replace the door latch wax motor they can prevent the control board failure from happening. Please tell everyone you know about this important fact.
The older Neptune’s also have a couple additional issues such as the moldy door boot and the reliability of the motor / motor control board. All three of these issues were involved in the class action lawsuit a couple of years ago. See http://www.neptunewaxmotor.com for more Neptune information.
If your door latch wax motor actuator pin color matches the body color (brownish color) then you have the defective wax motor and it needs to be replaced. See www.neptunewaxmotor.com for step by step disassembly photos. Then, I would check the machine control board (located behind the timer in upper console) for a burnt resistor, R11 which is located near the left circuit board mounting slot. If the R11 is burnt you can try the STAGE 1 repair kit, which includes a new R11 resistor and Q6 triac and wax motor or you can purchase a new control board. Don't forget to unplug machine when servicing your Neptune.
You can try to solder the new R11 and Q6 into the machine control board as there is a video on the above mentioned site that shows you how to perform the R11 and Q6 replacement. Another option is to call local t.v. repair shops and see if they will replace the components for you for a nominal fee. I hope this helps
This is normal to hear water sloshing under the drum when machine is done washing and you spin the drum. This is part of their water balance method to help spinning procedure. I called a Maytag repair shop and they helped with my question.
I think you have what's known as the "R11 and Q6 Problem". The quick and costly repair method is to replace the circuit board. The less expensive way is described at this Web site: http://members.shaw.ca/gavb/index.html. I followed the steps for replacing the R11 resistor and the Q6 Triac on the circuit board and ti solved my no-spin issue.
The vendor that I used is Unicorn Electronics located at http://www.UnicornElex.com/.
STOP There is a short in the door lock (very, very common problem )
Go to ebay and search neptune washers and im sure youll find a site i was selling a kit to repair this. If you cant find it let me know ill look .