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Gas payne furnace pg8m

Only two of the burners will light then cuts out. the third burner will not kick on. i have replaced the filter already and still no success.
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Take the burners out and wire brush them to get the clogged holes opened. Including the side discharge gas traveling holes. Blow out the burners with shop air and check the fresh air supply and the smoke stack.Retry.

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