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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
two items come into play here - 1) the hot surface cutout and 2) the flame detect Cd cell. Check alignment of the Cd cell or just replace it. The hot surface cutout has two terminals that plug into the two tabs on the millivolt generator.
Posted on Aug 22, 2007
SOURCE: Torpedo heater wont stay lit.
Do you have the serial number or the manufacture date? There are some design changes and I would need to know the year of manufacture to assist accurately. Usually it is a relay or the thermocouple connection that will affect the unit staying lit.
Posted on Mar 29, 2009
SOURCE: Patio heater won't stay lit
I had this same problem - here's how I fixed it...
First: Never modify the safety features of your heater as has been suggested elsewhere on this forum. Modification of these features may allow the heater to work, but greatly compromises the safety of anyone near the heater.
The problem with the heater shutting off is most likely due to not enough gas flowing through the pilot orifice (this orifice is almost as small as the diameter of a human hair). When this happens, the pilot flame does not burn vigorously enough to activate the thermocouple. Hence, the thermocouple shuts off the gas and the burner goes out - usually you'll hear one "click" when this happens.
This is a maintence thing - meaning you may have to do this as a seasonal activity.
Here we go....
(1) Shut off the gas at the tank - or remove the tank entirely.
(2) Remove the screws that hold the burner shield and top shroud from the unit - set it aside.
(3) Remove the control knob - it just pulls straight off.
(4) Remove the panel immediately behind the knob you just took off. This will expose the gas valve assembly.
(5) Remove the cover that encloses the bottom of the pilot light/igniter (assembly). This will expose the bottom of the pilot assembly.
(6) Remove the screw holding the pilot assembly - there is a small hex nut on top, but under the burner that you'll have to hold to prevent it from turning. This will free the pilot assembly allowing you to gently pull it out of the pilot assembly housing. DON"T pull hard or you may break the gas line or thermocouple.
(7) Remove the hex nut that attaches the gas line to the pilot assembly and gently pull the gas line out. At this point, to ensure you have gas flowing through the pilot gas line, you may want to re-attach the gas tank, turn it on, gently move the gas line as far away from the spark ignitor as possible, temporarily replace the control knob, and turn the knob to the "Pilot" position & push it in. DO NOT DO THIS ANYWHERE NEAR AN OPEN FLAME OR A LIGHTED CIGARETTE! You should be able to hear a hissing sound as the gas flows. If you do not hear it, the problem may be with your gas valve, and if that's the case, I'm sorry this procedure likely won't solve the problem.
(8) Remove the pilot light tube (orifice) from the mounting bracket. There's a hex nut on the back side that holds it in. Be careful not to damage the hex nut or the threads. You'll need a pair of pliers (to hold the bracket) and an adjustable wrench for the hex nut. Make note of the orientation of the pilot burner diverter so you can put it back together the same way it came apart.
(9) Using a blast of compressed air, blow air through the pilot orifice. You should be able to see just a very (and I mean very) small pin-point of light through the pilot burner. If not, use a single strand of very fine wire - like one strand from a 18 gauge braided electrical wire - and run it through the pilot orifice. Carbon build-up can clog this orifice - which can prevent the pilot from burning vigorously enough to heat up the thermocouple. Cleaning it out periodically will likely solve the problem.
Put everything back together in reverse order as noted above - making sure your gas fittings are tight and don't leak. Once it's all back together, light the pilot flame as normal and once the thermocouple heats up, the heater should work like a charm.
Posted on May 25, 2009
There are basically three things that can go wrong with the Warm Morning .
Sensor shut off. There is a sensor button on the back of the unit with a wire going from it to the thermocouple. This sensor turns the heater off if the flue is blocked, however it will also shut the heater off if the wire contacts are dirty, or if the sensor has gone bad.
You can test this by bypassing the sensor. Disconnect the two wires from the sensor and reconnect them directly together. If the pilot stays on, your problem is here. Try cleaning the wire contacts first.
Pilot orifice. If the pilot flame is small and doesnt look healthy, the pilot orifice may need cleaning. The hole is very small and can get dirty. Disconnect the silver tube and clean with electrical parts cleaner. Never try to clean the hole with an object like a pin, you may damage it. You may have to slide out the burner unit to get at the silver tube. (Always shut off gas before disconnecting lines and after you reassemble, spray joints with soapywater and look for small bubbles which may indicate a gas leak. Dont use parts cleaner around an open flame.)
Thermocouple can go bad but this is not as common as the first two problems.
Posted on Jan 28, 2010
SOURCE: my pilot light wont stay lit
Hi try cleaning the pilot light out make sure the thermo couple is in the flame,check where the tcouple goes in to the valve nothing stuck in there try this it could be the valve not working
Posted on Feb 08, 2010
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