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Sometimes the bobbin winder tension guide needs to be adjusted

Posted on Jan 01, 2013

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This is an issue of your upper thread tension, so take a look at this generic tension solution

If you are in a pickle with your bobbin case, check top tension and bobbin case are free of lint, reset the top tension to 4, and adjust the bobbin tension to suit......some more detail on how to do that, is here

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SOURCE: Singer 7444 trouble winding bobbin

It sounds like you don't have any tension on the thread when winding the bobbin. Make sure that you are running the thread through the tension disc on the top of the machine before going to the bobbin winder.

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Winding bobbin on 4411 with right tension


Hello Joyce Strohl
This happens quite often when the thread is not totally engaged through the tension disc before reaching the empty bobbin. You can refer to page 12 or the free downloadable manual found at this link: http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/1230_4411_heavy_duty_esf.pdf
Note that the thread must winde around the tensioning device in a letter "e" style to be effective.
Place the "mushy" bobbin where the spool of thread normally resides and winde the mushy thread onto another empty bobbin .... this way there is no loss of good thread.

Happy Stitching
Sewingirl/

Apr 23, 2017 | Sewing Machines

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Winding a bobbin correctly


The heart of sewing is producing a well tensioned seam and achieving this with any sewing machine will be difficult if you don't wind a bobbin smoothly and with even tension onto the thread. If you look at your bobbin and the thread on it looks all lumpy and uneven, then this tip is for you.

Each time you wind a bobbin, whatever sewing machine it is on, it is really important to keep even tension on the thread as it winds onto the bobbin. Many machines will have a little tension disc you take the thread around but your technique is important too.

Usually you take the thread from your spool of cotton on the right, across to the left on the top of the machine and around a tension disc, or through a thread eye, then back to the right to your bobbin winding spindle, if your bobbin has holes in it, then pull the thread tail up through a hole and pop it onto the spindle. Engage the spindle by pushing across against the stop. Now start winding SLOWLY while holding the thread tail up in the air until the core of the bobbin has been covered in fully and your thread has covered up the starting point to hold the beginning tail. Stop winding, and trim the tail off against the bobbin with a pair of snips. Now resume winding at 1/2 to 3/4 speed and do two things, one with each hand. With one hand put tension onto the top of the spool you are winding thread off - use the curve of your scissors handle into the indent on top. And with your other hand, give the thread a nudge as it winds onto the bobbin to ensure you wind fully across the whole bobbin evenly. Watch it carefully to ensure that you get a smooth even wind.

An analagy: if you wind the garden hose onto the hose reel really fast and let it go anywhich way, the hose will kink and wind mostly in the middle then the reel's full and you've still got half the hose to put away. Thread is the same, its been wound onto a spool by a machine in a very precise way; you want the same smooth evenly tensioned winding onto your bobbin so that when you stitch out the seam the thread is consistently fed off the bobbin.

Don't be tempted to wind flat out and just let it take its own path as you won't get good smooth bobbins of thread. And if you let the thread come off the spool at a fast pace the spool may bounce around, causing fluctuations in the tension on the thread. When you stich a seam, the thread will relax unevenly in your seam causing puckers and ho hum stitching.

Simple stuff but it makes a difference!

on Oct 02, 2011 | Sewing Machines

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Singer facilita 9858-1 top thread is winding around the bobbin case. It seems to get caught under the bobbin case retaining plate, around the left side of the case,& under the rim of the posi


try cleaning cleaning the tension disks, remember you tension setting,, take some unwaxed dental floss and go between the disc's to clean in them, and then reset the tension disc's by to normal

Dec 10, 2014 | Singer Sewing Machines

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Bobbins wind unevenly- tension issues


Sounds like it is actually the tension on the bobbin winder. Make sure that the thread is following the correct path to the bobbin. Other than getting it repaired, a stand-alone bobbin winder (avlb @ JoAnn's or online) for ~$30 would work. One brand is called the Sidewinder. Verify that your bobbins will work on it because some Singer bobbins will not. It's a nice accessory to have because it saves wear 'n tear on your machine plus you can wind bobbins without unthreading the machine.

FWIW, it is usually better to wind bobbins at a slower speed. Higher speed will tend to make the bobbin jump around and the thread to pop off. In addition, higher speed will tend to stretch the thread going onto the bobbin. The thread will not relax until unwound from the bobbin and stitched into your garment. It may cause the fabric to pucker as the thread relaxes. Slower is better!

Apr 15, 2017 | Sewing Machines

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Loose boobin winding


You need to ensure that the thread is going from the thread spool at the back of the machine, through the eyelet, then around the silver tension disc on top of the machine, then to the bobbin when you are winding it. Also, pull the thread tail up through the hole in your bobbin to start and hold the tail so the thread starts to fill smoothly and doesn't loosen.

I've marked the disc in red on this image
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Please read my Tip on bobbin winding; its really important to get a good wind and you can add more tension yourself by applying gentle pressure to your thread spool on the back pin as you wind off it.
Link is http://www.fixya.com/support/r10598580-winding_bobbin_correctly

The stopping when full is possibly because your bobbin is winding unevenly but I never run it until it stops itself anyway, and do the winding at 3/4 speed, not flat out. You want a really smoothly tensioned even wind onto the bobbin so your thread comes off the bobbin when stitching with even tension, not stretched, then loose.

Hope this helps you with your problem.

Dec 14, 2011 | Elna Quilter's Dream 6003Q

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Bernina 135 bobbin winds unevenly


If you are finding that the bobbin is winding with more thread towards one edge of the bobbin than the other, the bobbin winder motor needs to be adjusted so that the angle of the winder shaft is properly aligned with the tension disc next to the head cover. Unfortunately, unlike many of the other models, you have to remove the covers on the Activa range to get at the adjuster. There is a spring-tensioned screw just to the left of the bobbin winder motor that adjusts the angle of the motor and therefore how it loads the bobbin. If the winder is loading the bobbin with most of the thread towards the bottom edge, the screw should be turned clockwise and if most towards the top, it should be turned anticlockise. Make adjustments until the thread is winding evenly or, at least, towards the centre of the bobbin.

If you are finding that your bobbin is being loaded somewhat randomly, make sure you are using the vertical spool holder to hold the spool and that you've got a foam pad under the thread spool. Route the thread through the thread guide before winding around the tension disc in the correct direction (see the arrow on the case) and ensure that the spool and thread do not vibrate unduly when the bobbin is being wound. If you let the spool vibrate whilst the bobbin is loading, it may result in varying tension on the thread and uneven winding onto the bobbin.

Oct 02, 2011 | Bernina Activa 130

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Bobbin stich is uneven and a tangled mess


you can dowload a manual from the singer website http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

If the bottom stitching is uneven, its mostly the top thread not under tension correctly so check the tension dial and the threading up from the thread spool to the needle.

Also, review how you wind a bobbin, you want a nice smooth wind, not twisting or uneven build across the bobbin. The manual for this machine is pretty brief on this but bobbin winding is crucial to getting a good even flow from the bobbin when stitching seams. You want to wind thread smoothly onto the bobbin, across the full width of it, not just mainly in the middle. Give the thread a nudge with your finger tip to fill top and bottom as it winds.

Also, ensure the thread goes through the bobbin tension disc on top of the machine, and even then, use your scissors handle to put some downward gentle pressure onto the thread spool you are winding off so it doesn't jump or bounce as you wind. Wind the bobbin to 3/4 full, then stop.

And lastly, load the bobbin correctly following the manual directions, make sure it is turning the right way in the bobbin case. Also look at page 16, it shows the "dangle" test where you can check the tension on the bobbin case is right, you should be able to dangle the bobbin by the thread tail and it should "stay" but you should be able to pull on it to release thread too. Adjust the little tension screw in minute increments to get this right. Bobbin case tension springs can fail or break too, so check this out.

Hope this helps you; it is my experience that 90% of machine issues are caused by blunt or wrong sized needles, wrong threading, no tension or incorrect tension or lack of maintenance.

Apr 16, 2011 | White Sewing 1888 Mechanical Sewing...

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The tension on the bobbin is giving big loops and then breaking


This could be one of the following:
  • wrong bobbin for the machine
  • bobbin loaded the wrong way - must rotate anticlockwise when you pull the thread
  • thread not into the tension spring/device on the bobbin holder correctly
  • bobbin wound badly, uneven tension, loose or uneven across the bobbin
  • poor quality or old dry brittle thread could cause the breaking (but the loops is definitely tension issues).
This is a top loading bobbin machine machine and you can download a manual from
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

Here is the threading diagram from the manual.

tally_girl_21.jpg It is important to click the thread down into the tension spring on all top loading bobbin machines and then pull gently on the thread to check that it is under tension, you should feel firm resistance when you pull the thread. If not, then take it out, and try again.

Other thing to look at is how the bobbin is wound. It is necessary to wind a bobbin smoothly and with some tension on the spool as the thread comes off it. Best analogy is the garden hose reel. If you wind it up and don't control where the hose goes onto the reel it will all lump up in the middle, and you won't get all the hose onto it. And then when you go to pull the hose out, it will jam and be difficult to pull. Same with bobbin thread. You want a nice neat even fill across the whole width of the bobbin, not just the middle. To achieve this make sure you use the bobbin winder tension disc when winding. Also use the spool cap on top of the thread spool to stop it from bouncing around as it unwinds - the thread will then wind off around the spool cap and this keeps it running smoothly and not twisting and jerking. If you don't have a spool cap then put the curved handle of a pair of scissors on top of the thread spool to tension it while you wind the bobbin. Also watch the bobbin as it winds, give the thread a nudge with your finger to control the fill onto the bobbin so it winds top, bottom and middle of the bobbin evenly.

I would suggest the following:
clean out the race following the manual directions to remove the bobbin holder, clean in this area, replace it. Wind a fresh bobbin and then load it into the machine, following the manual instructions carefully. Also thread the top of the machine following the manual, put in a new sharp needle from the pack, turn the top tension dial to a medium number (often 5 if dial goes from zero to 10).

Now test sew again. Look at the seam, if you have loops on the bottom of the fabric, underside, then the top thread tension is too loose or not in the top tension discs fully. Generally you should not need to adjust the tension on the bobbin thread for these machines.


Apr 13, 2011 | Singer 5050 Mechanical Sewing Machine

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Singer 7444 trouble winding bobbin


It sounds like you don't have any tension on the thread when winding the bobbin. Make sure that you are running the thread through the tension disc on the top of the machine before going to the bobbin winder.

Feb 28, 2009 | Singer 3116 Simple

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I need to thread an elna air electronic su sewing machine


that's a nice machine, one of the last mechanical Elnas with the discs for extra stitches. Firstly, you need to wind a bobbin, always use Elna swiss metal bobbins, with holes on one side only, slightly dished. Put on top of the bobbin spindle and take the thread from your spool on the spool holders at the back of the machine across to the tension disc on top left, its white bump, thread through the tension then back to the bobbin and pull the tail through a hole in the top of the bobbin. Flick bobbin across to the right against the stop, disengage the clutch by holding the outer flywheel and turning the inner towards you. Now press the foot pedal to start winding a bobbin, holding the thread tail so it starts off. Wind one full coverage of the bobbin so that the starting point is covered, then stop and cut the tail off with scissors. Now continue winding at 3/4 speed until bobbin is full, watch as it winds and give the thread a nudge with your finger so it fills top and bottom as well as in the middle of the bobbin. When it is full, the bobbin spindle will stop winding. Move it to the left, cut the thread and reennage the clutch by holding flywheel and turning the inner the other way. Now install the bobbin and click the thread into the tension device, see image.
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Now thread up the top thread by taking the top thread from the spool, through the tension discs, across to the eyelet on top, down to the check spring, back up to the take up lever, then down to the needle catching the thread into the two thread guides enroute.
See this image.
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Now thread through the needle front to back, hold the top thread, close the bobbin cover leaving the tail sticking out the top, lower the needle down by turning the flywheel towards you through one cycle and pull the top thread, drawing the bobbin thread up to the top of the needle plate with it. Pull both threads under the pressure foot to the back and your ready to go. Remember, top tension should be on 5 and bottom tension should be on the red 1, don't change it. Brush out the bobbin holder assembly each time you use this machine and add one drop of oil into the middle of the bobbin holder, there may be a red dot or just the indenation. Run the machine for 30 seconds after oiling without thread, slowly to spread the oil through the bobbin mechanism. Standard 130/704H needles, change regularly (6 hours of sewing) and pick right sized needle and type point for the work you are sewing. Good luck with your SU. If you wanted to join, there is a Yahoo group called "Elna Heirlooms" for fellow Swiss Elna owners.

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