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Dell Intel P4 Chip

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I have an old Dell computer with a Intel P4 1.7 processor.

I would like to know what is the fastest possible chip I can put in the motherboard ??

Please help

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  • Sqrhed Jan 21, 2009

    Won't the 800 Mhz Bus speed be to fast ????

    Please let me know . If it's ok I will buy one of these chips at once.

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Your chip is a socket 478, the fastest chip you can get for that system that is still for sale is:
Pentium 4 3.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116027

Posted on Jan 21, 2009

  • Thomas O.
    Thomas O. Jan 21, 2009

    According to dell this will work in your PC, however the cpu bus may be limited by the board/ram but it will still be worlds faster than what you have in there now.

    According to dell's spec sheet on your computer:


    Intel® Pentium® 4 that runs at 2.2 or 2.4 GHz internally and 400 MHz externally, or 2.266, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or 3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally.







    Refrence Link:
    http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/sy...

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Can i upgrade a dell dimension intel core 2 6320 dm061 to an i3 cpu


No, sammyjayp

You are talking two different technologies, here.

Here,..........pull up a chair, and let me explain.............

The Dell Dimension desktop computer's motherboard, has a different type of technology being used; than per se a motherboard which supports an Intel Core i processor.

Whether we are talking Intel Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Core i9.

The Dell's motherboard chipset, is composed of a Northbridge chip; and a Southbridge chip,

[Note* CPU stands for Central Processing Unit.
Another term used is Microprocessor, or simply Processor for short.
Does NOT mean PC. Personal Computer ]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

The Northbridge chip handles the Faster capabilities of a computer.
Processor (CPU), Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

[HIGH-speed graphics being the AGP technology, and the PCI Express technology.
Using a PCI graphics card in a PCI slot, is NOT high-speed graphics.
Using Integrated (OnBoard) Graphics, is NOT high-speed graphics ]

The Southbridge chip handles the Slower capabilities of a computer.
Anything connected to the;

1) PCI bus, and to include Integrated Graphics
2) IDE (PATA) bus
3) SATA bus
4) USB bus
5) Ethernet
6) Audio (Sound)

Motherboard's that support the Intel Core i processor's, do not utilize a Northbridge chip,

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/535

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/610

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nehalem_%28microarchitecture%29

The Sandy Bridge micro-architecture was brought out to surpass the Nehalem micro-architecture,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i3_microprocessors

We are headed to the Skymont micro-architecture,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skymont_%28microarchitecture%29

Besides,........the processor socket you have on your motherboard is an LGA 775 processor socket.

The Intel Core i3 processors, use a completely different processor socket.

However, there are problems in architecture looming in the future;
Silicon will not have the capabilities for the newer processors.
(In about 10 years)
Talk is of going to Graphene.

Doesn't matter anyway.
In 10 years computing power will be so cheap, it will be the same as a sheet of wastepaper.

It will be in the wallpaper, your clothes, your toilet, and so on.
Our world will evolve exponentially.
(Unless some freak/s blo-w/s it up)

Computers will be as disposable as a sheet of paper.

Computer processing power follows Moore's Law.
Moore stated that processing power doubles every 18 months.

It is down to EVERY 11 months, NOW.

Seen the birthday cards that sing happy birthday to you?
The chip in the birthday card has more processing power, than all of the allied forces in 1945.

Your cellphone about the same power, or more; than was used in the first spaceflight to the Moon. (1969)

Point?
I wouldn't sweat it all that much.
Soon your cell phone will have more power, than that desktop computer you have has right now.

May be in contact lenses,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgE-NhcmbM

As for your Dell, once I find out the model number, we can see if it will support a better Intel processor, and more ram memory.

Post back in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

Mar 29, 2013 | Dell Dimension E520 PC Desktop

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My pc wont boot up how can i tell what core it is? its a Dell with 2.8 ghz intel


If this holds true,

http://www.ehow.com/facts_7577204_specifications-dell-model-dhm-computer.html

,the Dell computer is a Dimension 8250.

If that holds true, then NO. The motherboard chipset does NOT support using a dual core processor, much less a quad-core.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8250/specs.htm

The motherboard chipset used for the technology of your Dell motherboard, utilizes a Northbridge chip, and a Southbridge chip.

Let's regress for a moment;

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Circuit

If you would take the motherboard out of the computer case, and stand it up in the same direction/position it was in the case, on a table; the motherboard can be viewed as a Map.

The Processor is due North, the Ram Memory slots are due East, the white long PCI slots are due South; and the I/O ports are due West.

The Northbridge chip is always close to the CPU. (Processor)
This is one reason it is named the Northbridge chip.

The Southbridge chip lays down near the white long PCI slots.
Yes. Due South.

The Northbridge chip handles the Faster capabilities of a computer.
Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

Therefore when you want to upgrade the Processor, not only take a look at what processor socket is used on the motherboard; but also see what the Northbridge chip is.

[There is more ]

HIGH-speed graphics being AGP, and PCI Express,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

a) Using a graphics card inserted into a white long PCI expansion slot, is NOT high-speed graphics.
b) Using Integrated Graphics is NOT high-speed graphics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

The Southbridge chip handles the Slower capabilities of a computer.

1) Anything connected to the IDE bus. (IDE is also referred to as PATA)
2) Anything connected to the SATA bus.
3) Anything connected to the USB bus.
4) Anything connected to the Ethernet bus.
5) Audio (Sound)

An example of general location using this example,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ASRock_K7VT4A_Pro_Mainboard_Labeled_English.svg

The motherboard example is clocked 90 degrees to the Left, plus a few more degrees (22?); than how it actually is positioned in a computer case.

As you can see with this example, the Northbridge chip has an aluminum finned Heatsink on it. They run hot, and need to be cooled.
The Southbridge chip in this example does not use a Heatsink.
Most newer motherboards do.

The motherboard chipset used on the Dimension 8250 motherboard, is an Intel 850E.

One of the first Intel chipsets to start supporting Intel Pentium 4 processors.
Age, my man. This baby is O-L-D.

Dual core processors weren't even heard of then. They hadn't come out.
Much less quad-core processors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_chipsets

Fourth listing down in the Chipset column. 850E

Northbridge is Intel 82850E
Southbridge is Intel ICH2. Part number is Intel 82801BA

-> RDRAM?
Just spotted this.

Should mean you are running an Intel Celeron, or Intel Pentium 4, that use a Socket 423.

Seriously? RDRAM?
That ram memory technology has been left way behind.
Rambus DRAM. (Dynamic Random Access Memory)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RDRAM

Plus the price of Ram Memory is out-freaking-rageous!
For the price of 1GB of RDRAM, you could buy 4GB of Sdram
DDR, DDR2, or DDR3.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim8250/specs.htm

Advise get rid of that motherboard.

Processor? Nope. Can't reuse. Why? It's a Socket 423 Intel processor. They use RDRAM ram memory.
Intel made a deal back in the day, that they would manufacturer Intel processors utilizing a Socket 423, and RAMBUS ram memory,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_423

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_4_microprocessors#Willamette_.28180.C2.A0nm.29

Regards,
joecoolvette

Feb 04, 2013 | Dell PC Desktops

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Picture about flowchart of computer


http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/insp530s/en/OM/HTML/index.htm

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/insp530s/en/OM/HTML/parts.htm#wp1578680

Power Supply - Small Form Factor design,

http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Dell-Inspiron-Systems-Identical/dp/B001GJCR46/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1346943850&sr=8-1&keywords=inspiron+530s+power+supply

Motherboard Diagram,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

CPU = Central Processing Unit. Another term used is Microprocessor, or simply Processor for short.

1) Processor: Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200
(Max frequency rate = 2.5GigaHertz )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_microprocessors#.22Wolfdale-3M.22_.2845_nm.29

800 MegaHertz Front Side Bus
Voltage range .085 to 1.3625 Volts (DC)
Uses Up To 65 Watts of power
Again, 2.5GHz for the maximum frequency rate. ('Speed')


2) Processor socket: LGA 775

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_775

3) Motherboard Chipset:

Intel G33 Express

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Core_2_chipsets

Scroll down to G33;
Northbridge chip: Intel 82G33
Southbridge chip: Intel 82801IB, or 82801IR, or 82801IH,

(ICH9, or ICH9R, or ICH9DH. Scroll down to the subheading -
Southbridge 9xx and 3/4 Series chipsets)

4) Ram Memory:

2 ram memory slots
Maximum for EACH ram memory slot is 1GigaByte
Maximum TOTAL is 2GB.
DDR2 Sdram at 667MegaHertz. (PC2-5300)

5) Harddrive: SATA - 500GigaByte
6) Optical Drive - SATA

7) Graphics: Integrated on the motherboard.
Intel GMA 3100,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_3100

PCI-Express x16 slot, and uses the PCI-Express 2.0 technology.

The CPU (Processor) communicates back, and forth to the Northbridge chip, (Of the motherboard chipset), through the Front Side Bus. (FSB)

The Northbridge chip communicates with the Southbridge chip, through the Internal Bus.

The Southbridge communicates with the Super I/O chipset, and the BIOS chipset, through the LPC Bus. (Low Pin Count )

One at a time in the Wikipedia search box look up,
1) Bus (computing)
2) Front Side Bus
3) Northbridge (computing)
4) Southbridge (computing)
5) Internal bus
6) LPC bus
7) Super I/O
8) PCI (Local bus) [Conventional PCI ]
9) PCI Express

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_circuit

The GPU, or Graphics Processing Unit, or graphics chipset; can be Integrated on the motherboard, or on a separate graphics adapter card,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPU

The motherboard chipset for the Dell Inspiron 530s desktop computer, consists of a Northbridge chip, and a Southbridge chip.

[So aptly named because if you look at a motherboard as a map, the Processor, and Northbridge chip sits due North; Ram Memory slots due East; PCI slots, and Southbridge chip due South ]

The Northbridge chip handles the Faster capabilities of a computer.
Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

AGP and PCI Express is HIGH-speed graphics.
A graphics card inserted into a PCI slot, or using Integrated Graphics, is NOT high-speed graphics.

The Southbridge chip handles the Slower capabilities of a computer.

PCI bus. (PCI expansion slots, and Integrated Graphics)
IDE bus
SATA bus
USB bus
Ethernet bus
Audio (Sound)

The Super I/O chipset handles the I/O devices (Input/Output), such as the Keyboard, Mouse, Floppy Drive, and anything connected to a Serial port, or Parallel port.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

Sep 06, 2012 | Dell Inspiron 530s Desktop Computer

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Please can you tell me the components of the following chipsets. north bridge,south bridge and I/Out put chipset


For the Dell Optiplex GX150 Desktop PC?

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx150/en/ug/specs.htm

Motherboard chipset: Intel 815E

Northbridge chip: Intel 82815
Southbridge chip: Intel 82801BA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_II.2FIII_chipsets

Under the subheading - Chipset - scroll down with your eyes to -
815E

Look to the right.
You will see - 82815 - under - Part Numbers.
That is the Northbridge.

To the right of that, you will see - ICH2 - under Southbridge.

Scroll the page down, until you come to the BOLD heading -
Southbridge 8XX chipsets.

You will see ICH2 is Intel part number - 82801BA

The I/O controller hub is in the Southbridge chip.
I do not know what the Super I/O chipset is.

[ The Northbridge chip should be under a finned Heatsink. If so, you will not be able to see the Intel part number.

Looking at the motherboard as a map, with the Processor to the Top, and Ram Memory slots to the Right, the Processor is NORTH.

(Ram Memory slots are to the EAST)

Coming down the motherboard, the Northbridge chip is under the Processor.

Come down further, and slightly to the right, and you will see the Southbridge chip.
It has Intel 82801BA on it, with other Intel information ]

HOWEVER, here is a list of Super I/O chipsets,

http://web.archive.org/web/20070929033214/http://www.esupport.com/techsupport/award/superio.htm

[ It comes up to the Wayback Machine. Wait a couple of seconds, and the Super I/O chipset page will come up ]

If this is a general question about the Northbridge chip, Southbridge chip, and Super I/O chipset;

Motherboard diagram,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

CPU stands for Central Processing Unit. Another term used is Microprocessor, or simply Processor for short.

The Processor communicates with the Northbridge chip, through the Front Side Bus. (FSB)

The Northbridge chip communicates with the Southbridge chip, through the Internal Bus.

The Southbridge chip communicates with the Super I/O chipset through the LPC Bus. (Low Pin Count Bus)

The Northbridge chip handles the faster capabilities of a computer.
It handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

AGP (Accelerated Graphics Port), and PCI-Express, are HIGH-speed graphics.

A graphics card inserted into a PCI slot, or Integrated Graphics, is
NOT high-speed graphics. This is handled by the Southbridge chip.

The Southbridge chip handles the slower capabilities of a computer.

IDE
SATA
USB
Ethernet
and Audio. (Sound)

This is more information on the Northbridge chip,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_%28computing%29

For more information on the Southbridge chip, simply left-click on the blue - southbridge, in the end of the first sentence.
(....the other being the southbridge)

You can also search the following in Wikipedia, by typing them in the search box to the upper right, and clicking on the magnifying glass icon.

Northbridge (computing)
Southbridge (computing)
Front-side bus
Internal bus
LPC bus
Super I/O chip, and so on.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

May 14, 2012 | Dell OptiPlex GX150 SF PC Desktop

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1 out 50 times I turn on my Dell Dimension E520 there is no signal to the monitor. I have tried to install a new PCI express card instead of using the integrated graphics but the result was the same e.i no...


The problem is the Power Supply. Weak voltage power rail.

You've taken the right steps with your diagnosis.

1) Start with the monitor cable. If removable use a known to be good monitor cable.
Checks okay, go onto the graphics 'engine' of the computer.

If the monitor cable is not removable, use another monitor, and cable for a test.

2) If you are presently using Integrated Graphics the next step in diagnosing is to install a graphics card.
See if the problem is the Integrated Graphics 'engine'.

[ Just to add:
Intel GM X3100 is the graphics 'engine'. It is integrated into the Northbridge chip of the motherboard chipset.

Intel G965 chipset is the motherboard chipset. The Intel ID number on the Northbridge chip is 82G965.
The Southbridge chip is an Intel ICH8, or ICH8R, or ICH8-DH,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Core_2_Chipsets

{Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intergrated_Circuit }


The Northbridge chip handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.
AGP and PCI Express are High-speed graphics.

A graphics card in a PCI slot is not High-speed graphics.

The Southbridge chip handles the slower capabilities of a computer.
PCI and Integrated Graphics being two of the slower capabilities.
SATA, IDE, USB, and Ethernet, are also some of the slower capabilities of a computer,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

CPU = Central Processing Unit. Another name used is Microprocessor, or Processor for short ]

3) Power Supply.
Weak voltage power rail.

The Power Supply has enough power to light LED lights, and maybe spin fans, but Not enough power to turn the Processor on.

A) ALL the LED lights on at once will consume less than 1 Watt of power.

B) EACH fan consumes 2 to 3 Watts of power.

C) A typical Processor can consume (Maximum) 51 to 125 Watts of power.
Depends on what Processor it is.

The Dell Dimension E521 desktop computer's motherboard, has an LGA 775 processor socket.
(Processor has the socket holes, processor socket has the pins)

The Intel processors that can be used in this processor socket, can be an Intel Pentium 4, (Version that uses an LGA 775 processor socket), Intel Pentium D, or Intel Core2 Duo, AND Intel Core 2 Quad, with a maximum FSB of 1066MHz. (If the BIOS version will support Intel Core2 Quad processors)
{Front Side Bus of 1066Megahertz}

Wattage consumption can be as much as 105 Watts.

Do you have a KNOWN to be good, compatible Power Supply available, to use as a test unit?

{Compatible being that the Power Supply case fits, (ATX), has the right amount of power cables, and the correct power cables. (Needs to have a 24-pin ATX main power cable, and a 4-pin ATX +12 Volt power cable, for one)

Perhaps there is an unused computer that has a Power Supply you can borrow.
Maybe someone has upgraded to a better computer, and has an unused one with a compatible power supply for a test unit.

Nov 07, 2010 | Dell Dimension E520 PC Desktop

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We own a dell dx270 p4 it wont boot up should we just buy a new one or is this one worth upgrading and what is the biggest processor we can put into it.


darrinjensen all I can offer is my opinion, as can everyone else. The decision rests with you.

A) The best Processor that a Dell Optiplex GX270 can use, is a single-core Intel Pentium 4.
The best Ram Memory is DDR Sdram at 400MegaHertz. (PC3200)

This is shown by the fact that the Northbridge chip is an Intel 865G.
Supporting Data:

1) http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx270/en/ug/specs.htm

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_Chipsets

3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

[ The CPU {Processor} communicates through the Front Side Bus {FSB} to the Northbridge chip.
Think of an FSB as an 'Information Highway'.
Information {Data} goes back and forth across the FSB.

{Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C. Integrated Circuit}

The Northbridge chip determines what Processors are supported, what Ram Memory is supported, and High-speed graphics.

{High-speed graphics being AGP or PCI Express.
Not a graphics card installed into a PCI slot, nor Integrated Graphics.

Integrated graphics is also referred to as OnBoard graphics. ON the motherBoard. The graphics chip {GPU) is soldered to the motherboard. Not to a removable graphics adapter card. (Graphics card/Video card/Graphics adapter card, all mean the same thing)

The Southbridge chip handles the slower processes of a computer. Therefore also handling anything to do with a PCI slot, or Integrated graphics ]

A motherboard is the 'Building Block' of a computer. From it, all hardware components are supported.
Processor, Ram Memory, Graphics card, (Or Integrated Graphics), and so on.
What Northbridge chip is used determines a lot about a motherboard, besides the internal connectors used.
When buying a computer this is what you need to look at, for one.

Things have changed with the introduction of the Intel Core i3, i5, i7, and i9.
There is no separate Northbridge chip. It may be integrated into the CPU, or not used at all.
There is no FSB. It has been replaced with the Quick-Path Interconnect.

Intel rates their Processors with a star system now. The budget, or entry level Celeron is a 1 star. Pentium's are 2 stars. Core i3 - 3 stars, Core i5 - 4 stars, Core i7- 5 stars.

Point?

With the introduction of computer utilizing the Intel Core i3, i5, i7, and i9 processors, the computers that can use Intel Core 2 (Duo and Quad) processors are becoming VERY economical.

You may be able to purchase a desktop computer that utilizes an Intel Core 2 processor for around
$400 to $500. One that utilizes a comparable AMD processor for the same, or less.
And has Windows 7. (I know, do not start a sentence with And)

One example, (Not advertising for website),

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6326393&CatId=6

Another example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6738683&CatId=6

The Power Supply is probably what is bad with your GX270. Also, has it been cleaned inside on a regular basis as needed? {To include the Power Supply. A can of compressed air for computers is used. Power unplugged to computer}

Oct 24, 2010 | Dell GX270 P4 256/40/48X/XPP/NONE...

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I would like to upgrade my cpu. Can I put a larger cpu? I have a compaq EVO D510 with a 1.8 processor.


You can upgrade the speed of the CPU. Of course in order to do that you must know the motherboard capabilities. If the motherboard is upgradable to 2.0ghz processor with the same specs with your 1.8ghz processor then you can upgrade. If the motherboard is un-upgradable, my suggestion is to replace the motherboard, get a new processor, memory module, etc. Meaning you just bought a new computer. For the mean time, upgrade your memory module. Un-install the software that you don't need. Especially the one the eats up the processor speed.

Jul 12, 2010 | Compaq Evo D510 Minitower (Open Box)...

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Evo d510 small form factor with 1.79ghz processor what other size of processor can i put in


The Compaq Evo D510's motherboard has a Socket 478 processor socket, and uses an Intel 845G motherboard chipset.

This is information on the Socket 478 processor socket,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478

As you can see the processor socket has the holes, while the processor has the pins.
478 socket holes.

Only Intel processors that fit into a Socket 478 processor socket, can be used.
Intel Celeron or Pentium 4.

Motherboard Chipset:
The motherboard chipset consists of the Northbridge chip, and the Southbridge chip.
Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit.

The Northbridge chip handles the high-speed processes, while the Southbridge handles the low speed processes of a computer.

The Northbridge handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and any high speed graphics.

(AGP and PCI Express being high-speed graphics.
Any graphics adapter card inserted into a PCI slot, or Integrated Graphics {On-Board), is a slow speed process. Handled by the Southbridge chip)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

[CPU stands for Central Processing Unit, or for short - Processor)

This is information about the Intel 845G chipset,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_Chipsets

Scroll down on the left until you come to -
845G
Read across.

The Nothrbridge chip is the Intel 82845G.
The Southbridge chip is the Intel ICH4.

As you can read looking across, and at the top of the chart, the 845G will support processors with;

1) Celeron, Celeron D, and Pentium 4 processors.

2) Up to a 533MHz FSB. (533MegaHertz Front Side Bus)

(Pentium 4 processors are better than Celeron.
The Celeron was designed as a budget processor.
'Celey's' generally have half of the L2 cache, that a comparable Pentium 4 has)

I felt listing this information in this manner, would help you can make an informed decision, as to what processors are compatible with the Evo D510 motherboard, instead of just stating, "Get this processor".

I will include a link of a website I found some time ago, that sells Pentium 4's with these parameters, at a very reasonable cost.

May 07, 2010 | Compaq EVO D510 CMT P4 2.5/20GB/256MB...

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I have a dell dimension 4600i. I want to upgrade


It should.. Here is a link to documentation.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dim4600/en/4600/sm/specs.htm

Apr 28, 2010 | Dell Dimension 4600 PC Desktop

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Cpu upgrade , please help


tech-gu818,

When looking to see what processors a computer will support, try to find out what motherboard chipset is on the motherboard, and the processor socket.

The motherboard chipset is the;
1) Northbridge chip
2) Southbridge chip

[Chip and Chipset are slang terms for Integrated Circuit, or IC.
A Processor is one type of Integrated Circuit]

The Northbridge chip is responsible for handling the Processor, Ram Memory, and high-speed graphics, such as AGP, or PCI-Express.

Integrated graphics, or a graphics card installed in a PCI slot, is handled by the Southbridge chip. The slower capabilities of a computer are handled by the Southbridge chip.

This motherboard diagram may help further illustrate the above statements,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

(You can also type,
1) Northbridge (computing)
2) Southbridge (computing)
in Wikipedia's search box to obtain more info )

How to find out what motherboard chipset the eMachines W3502 uses?
Three ways:

1) Go to the computer manufacturer's support website, and look under Specifications.
2) Download the free, tiny, program CPU-Z from CPUID.com
3) Download the free, tiny, program Belarc Advisor

Fortunately eMachines Support lists what the W3502 motherboard chipset is,

http://www.emachines.com/support/product_support.html?cat=Desktops&subcat=W%20Series&model=W3502

Chipset: ATI Radeon XPress 200

Now look for information on ATI's Radeon XPress 200 chipset.
For this we can go back to Wikipedia once more,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ati_radeon_xpress_200

Reading the top sentence in the first paragraph you will note,
".......Pentium 4, Pentium D, and Celeron processors, ......using either a Socket 478 processor socket, or an LGA 775 processor socket."

What isn't stated in the first sentence is that it will also support Intel Core2 processors. That is stated on the right side of the page, in the information box under the subheading - CPU Supported

I wouldn't think anything higher than an older E4400, or E4500 though.
The E4400, and the E4500 use an 800MHz Front Side Bus. So does the E5300 Dual Core.

The information box states that processors with Up To a 1066MHz FSB are supported.
I just don't know if there is a BIOS update needed, or if a BIOS update is available, in case it's needed.

Needed to change the voltage, and multiplier, so that a processor with a 1066MHz FSB can be used.

To summarize:

The ATI XPress 200 motherboard chipset, on your eMachines W3502, will support an Intel Dual Core E5300.

Advise:
Do Not forget to use anti-static precautions. Your body carries Static electricity. Static will fry out (Short circuit) computer hardware components.

A Processor is the most susceptible hardware component to static shock.

I would advise buying a cheap $6 ESD wrist strap, from some where like Radio Shack, or a similar store, and using it.
Clip the alligator clip to an unpainted surface of the metal frame, of the computer case. (Computer unplugged from power)

Barring this, make sure you touch the metal frame of the open computer case, before you reach inside. (Computer unplugged from power)
If you get up, and walk away in the middle of working on your computer, upon your return touch the metal frame again.

Make Sure the top of the Processor's case is clean, and the bottom of the Heatsink.
I use an old credit card to scrape both surfaces as clean as I can, then follow with Q-tips dipped in Isopropyl Alcohol.

Usually takes a few dipped Q-tips, as thermal paste is a gooey mess, and the alcohol takes time to break it down.

Isopropyl alcohol is also referred to as Rubbing Alcohol. 91 percent is best, but 70 percent will do. Nix on the 50 percent.

CAUTION!
Isopropyl alcohol is Extremely Flammable! Use in a well ventilated area, with no sparks or flames present.

Use fresh, new thermal paste, never try to reuse old thermal paste, or a thermal pad. Thermal paste properties break down over time, and the thermal paste becomes more of an Insulator, than a Conductor.

Thermal pads are only good for taking off, and flying at the cat.
They're Junk!
(Meooow! Hey watch it dude! You almost hit me with that!)

Thermal paste doesn't have to be Artic Silver 5. A good quality thermal paste, applied correctly, will get you down the road just fine. A 'Mom and Pop' computer repair shop, should have a one processor tube, for around $2.

You Should be okay with the same Heatsink/Fan combo, as the Intel Pentium Dual Core E5300 puts out less heat than a Celeron D 352, or around the same amount.

Be sure the inside of the computer sparkles, as well as the Heatsink, processor fan, and the inside of the Power Supply. Use a can or two, of compressed air for computers.

(Celeron D's are not dual core processors. The Pentium D's are)

Mar 25, 2010 | E-Machines eMachines Desktop PC

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