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Dell Intel P4 Chip

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I have an old Dell computer with a Intel P4 1.7 processor.

I would like to know what is the fastest possible chip I can put in the motherboard ??

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    Won't the 800 Mhz Bus speed be to fast ????

    Please let me know . If it's ok I will buy one of these chips at once.

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Your chip is a socket 478, the fastest chip you can get for that system that is still for sale is:
Pentium 4 3.0 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116027

Posted on Jan 21, 2009

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    Thomas O. Jan 21, 2009

    According to dell this will work in your PC, however the cpu bus may be limited by the board/ram but it will still be worlds faster than what you have in there now.

    According to dell's spec sheet on your computer:


    Intel® Pentium® 4 that runs at 2.2 or 2.4 GHz internally and 400 MHz externally, or 2.266, 2.4, 2.53, 2.66, 2.8, or 3.06 GHz internally and 533 MHz externally.







    Refrence Link:
    http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/sy...

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Please can you tell me the components of the following chipsets. north bridge,south bridge and I/Out put chipset


For the Dell Optiplex GX150 Desktop PC?

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx150/en/ug/specs.htm

Motherboard chipset: Intel 815E

Northbridge chip: Intel 82815
Southbridge chip: Intel 82801BA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_intel_chipsets#Pentium_II.2FIII_chipsets

Under the subheading - Chipset - scroll down with your eyes to -
815E

Look to the right.
You will see - 82815 - under - Part Numbers.
That is the Northbridge.

To the right of that, you will see - ICH2 - under Southbridge.

Scroll the page down, until you come to the BOLD heading -
Southbridge 8XX chipsets.

You will see ICH2 is Intel part number - 82801BA

The I/O controller hub is in the Southbridge chip.
I do not know what the Super I/O chipset is.

[ The Northbridge chip should be under a finned Heatsink. If so, you will not be able to see the Intel part number.

Looking at the motherboard as a map, with the Processor to the Top, and Ram Memory slots to the Right, the Processor is NORTH.

(Ram Memory slots are to the EAST)

Coming down the motherboard, the Northbridge chip is under the Processor.

Come down further, and slightly to the right, and you will see the Southbridge chip.
It has Intel 82801BA on it, with other Intel information ]

HOWEVER, here is a list of Super I/O chipsets,

http://web.archive.org/web/20070929033214/http://www.esupport.com/techsupport/award/superio.htm

[ It comes up to the Wayback Machine. Wait a couple of seconds, and the Super I/O chipset page will come up ]

If this is a general question about the Northbridge chip, Southbridge chip, and Super I/O chipset;

Motherboard diagram,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

CPU stands for Central Processing Unit. Another term used is Microprocessor, or simply Processor for short.

The Processor communicates with the Northbridge chip, through the Front Side Bus. (FSB)

The Northbridge chip communicates with the Southbridge chip, through the Internal Bus.

The Southbridge chip communicates with the Super I/O chipset through the LPC Bus. (Low Pin Count Bus)

The Northbridge chip handles the faster capabilities of a computer.
It handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and HIGH-speed graphics.

AGP (Accelerated Graphics Port), and PCI-Express, are HIGH-speed graphics.

A graphics card inserted into a PCI slot, or Integrated Graphics, is
NOT high-speed graphics. This is handled by the Southbridge chip.

The Southbridge chip handles the slower capabilities of a computer.

IDE
SATA
USB
Ethernet
and Audio. (Sound)

This is more information on the Northbridge chip,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northbridge_%28computing%29

For more information on the Southbridge chip, simply left-click on the blue - southbridge, in the end of the first sentence.
(....the other being the southbridge)

You can also search the following in Wikipedia, by typing them in the search box to the upper right, and clicking on the magnifying glass icon.

Northbridge (computing)
Southbridge (computing)
Front-side bus
Internal bus
LPC bus
Super I/O chip, and so on.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.

Regards,
joecoolvette

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You will not find a better processor or replacement parts, this system is too old and parts are not being made. Newer systems are 4 generations better and prices are heading down, buy a new system with Intel CORE or CORE2 chips or the latest I3, I5 or I7 chip using DDR3 memory. DDR4 will be arriving in 2012, prices on old DDR3 will continue to go down.

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Hi I have a D420 its a small one thats what i like about it i also have a d620 but i wanted to upgrade my d420 with something to make it a little faster like a processor upgrade ...? im not sure about the...


Hi,

Your thoughts are breaking up as you are typing.

You stated;
1) I have a Dell Latitude D420 and a Latitude D620.
The D420 is small, that's what I like about it.

I want to make my D420 faster, is there a possible Processor upgrade?
I'm not sure about the specifications of the motherboard, so I do not know if this is possible.

I know I can get an SSD Harddrive,............the rest is illegible to me.

A) The D420 keeps going slow.

Question: After what?
After you installed an SSD harddrive? After you flashed the BIOS?


B) Was fast when I flashed it.

Question: Flashed the BIOS?
Why?
Why do people always rush to try to upgrade their BIOS program with a flash, when they do not know if it will help, or not?
One mistake and you have a dead laptop. Use it for a paperweight.

When you upgrade the BIOS you have the option to save the original, so you can go back to it in case there is trouble.
Did you?

Post back in a Comment.


While I wait.
To upgrade to a better Processor you need to know;

1) What Processor socket is on the motherboard

2) What is the motherboard chipset, and specifically, what is the Northbridge chip of the motherboard chipset.


To explain;

The motherboard chipset is the Northbridge chip, and the Southbridge chip.

(For the Dell Latitude D420 motherboard. This does not apply to motherboards that support the Intel Core i3, i5, i7, or i9 processors)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

{Note*
CPU = Central Processing Unit. Another term is Microprocessor, or simply Processor for short. Does Not mean Personal Computer}

Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Circuit

The Northbridge chip is so aptly name because for one, it sits on the motherboard to the North, or top of the motherboard. Generally right under the Processor socket.

The Northbridge chip handle the Processor, Ram Memory, and High speed graphics.

{High speed graphics being AGP, or PCI Express. Not a graphics card installed into a PCI slot, nor Integrated Graphics. {Integrated Graphics, OnBoard graphics, same/same}


The motherboard chipset is an Intel 945GMS,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Core.2FCore_2_Mobile_Chipsets

(Part number printed on the Northbridge chip is Intel 82945GMS. Part number on the Southbridge chip is Intel 82801GBM)

The Northbridge chip supports Processors with up to a 667Megahertz Front Side Bus. (667MHz FSB)

Will support Processors with either a 533MHz FSB, or a 667MHz FSB.
667MHz FSB being the maximum it will support.

The processor socket is a Socket M.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_M


List of Intel Core microprocessors,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_microprocessors

Regards,
joecoolvette

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We own a dell dx270 p4 it wont boot up should we just buy a new one or is this one worth upgrading and what is the biggest processor we can put into it.


darrinjensen all I can offer is my opinion, as can everyone else. The decision rests with you.

A) The best Processor that a Dell Optiplex GX270 can use, is a single-core Intel Pentium 4.
The best Ram Memory is DDR Sdram at 400MegaHertz. (PC3200)

This is shown by the fact that the Northbridge chip is an Intel 865G.
Supporting Data:

1) http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/opgx270/en/ug/specs.htm

2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_Chipsets

3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

[ The CPU {Processor} communicates through the Front Side Bus {FSB} to the Northbridge chip.
Think of an FSB as an 'Information Highway'.
Information {Data} goes back and forth across the FSB.

{Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C. Integrated Circuit}

The Northbridge chip determines what Processors are supported, what Ram Memory is supported, and High-speed graphics.

{High-speed graphics being AGP or PCI Express.
Not a graphics card installed into a PCI slot, nor Integrated Graphics.

Integrated graphics is also referred to as OnBoard graphics. ON the motherBoard. The graphics chip {GPU) is soldered to the motherboard. Not to a removable graphics adapter card. (Graphics card/Video card/Graphics adapter card, all mean the same thing)

The Southbridge chip handles the slower processes of a computer. Therefore also handling anything to do with a PCI slot, or Integrated graphics ]

A motherboard is the 'Building Block' of a computer. From it, all hardware components are supported.
Processor, Ram Memory, Graphics card, (Or Integrated Graphics), and so on.
What Northbridge chip is used determines a lot about a motherboard, besides the internal connectors used.
When buying a computer this is what you need to look at, for one.

Things have changed with the introduction of the Intel Core i3, i5, i7, and i9.
There is no separate Northbridge chip. It may be integrated into the CPU, or not used at all.
There is no FSB. It has been replaced with the Quick-Path Interconnect.

Intel rates their Processors with a star system now. The budget, or entry level Celeron is a 1 star. Pentium's are 2 stars. Core i3 - 3 stars, Core i5 - 4 stars, Core i7- 5 stars.

Point?

With the introduction of computer utilizing the Intel Core i3, i5, i7, and i9 processors, the computers that can use Intel Core 2 (Duo and Quad) processors are becoming VERY economical.

You may be able to purchase a desktop computer that utilizes an Intel Core 2 processor for around
$400 to $500. One that utilizes a comparable AMD processor for the same, or less.
And has Windows 7. (I know, do not start a sentence with And)

One example, (Not advertising for website),

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6326393&CatId=6

Another example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6738683&CatId=6

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This is information on the Socket 478 processor socket,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_478

As you can see the processor socket has the holes, while the processor has the pins.
478 socket holes.

Only Intel processors that fit into a Socket 478 processor socket, can be used.
Intel Celeron or Pentium 4.

Motherboard Chipset:
The motherboard chipset consists of the Northbridge chip, and the Southbridge chip.
Chip and Chipset are slang terms for I.C.
Integrated Circuit.

The Northbridge chip handles the high-speed processes, while the Southbridge handles the low speed processes of a computer.

The Northbridge handles the Processor, Ram Memory, and any high speed graphics.

(AGP and PCI Express being high-speed graphics.
Any graphics adapter card inserted into a PCI slot, or Integrated Graphics {On-Board), is a slow speed process. Handled by the Southbridge chip)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Motherboard_diagram.svg

[CPU stands for Central Processing Unit, or for short - Processor)

This is information about the Intel 845G chipset,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Pentium_4_Chipsets

Scroll down on the left until you come to -
845G
Read across.

The Nothrbridge chip is the Intel 82845G.
The Southbridge chip is the Intel ICH4.

As you can read looking across, and at the top of the chart, the 845G will support processors with;

1) Celeron, Celeron D, and Pentium 4 processors.

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(Pentium 4 processors are better than Celeron.
The Celeron was designed as a budget processor.
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Yeah, it was a bit hard to find, not being a currernt model I was stuck on the Asus site trying to find out for you.
Then I found this site -
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?cid=6&id=465&pg=
It says
  • Socket 478 for Intel� Pentium 4 / Celeron processors
  • Intel� Pentium 4 Processors 1.4GHz - 2.53GHz or higher
  • Intel� Celeron Processors 1.7GHz - 1.8GHz or higher
  • Supports processors at 400 / 533MHz front side bus
    Or higher, it says. But doesn't say how higher. It's a fair assessment that if it is a Pentium 4 socket 478 chip, it should work. Then it's a case of choosing one that suits your budget.
    Have a look on the Asus site for the latest BIOS updates too - they might have a clue as to what chip you can go to -
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    Seems the issue is FSB speed, 533 or 400. No big problem for most, but I did see a Pentium4 3.0Ghz chip at 800 FSB so just check the speed of the processor matches the specs the motherboard handles. Like you say, looks like the 3.2 might be too fast because of the FSB requirement.
    Remember, a P4 is going to be quicker than a celeron anyhow so just go with the fastest 533 FSB chip you can find.
    A short-cut to the english manual, here - http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/sock478/p4s533-mx/e1187_p4s533-mx.pdf

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