With display showing fill tank, refilling the tank does not allow machine to pump watter nor heat water. Unit believes there is no water in system. Forcing water through the pump does not alleviate the signal.
Is this a sensor problem or a blocked 'duct'?
Any experience with this .
dealer has not yet opened the unit and provides no clues.
I'm looking for s simple fix. Unit is past warranty and I am not afraid of doing repairs my self
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First, I'm not a Saeco technician.But I've worked on similar Saeco machines.
- Water not getting to machine or not sensing that the water tank is already filled.
* There usually some type of float near to middle of the water tank. It's usually white or colored plastic. This 'float' needs to move freely up-down to 'sense' the filled tank. clean the tank and shake it -note the movement of this float. It will need further cleaning if it's stuck (or you will have to replace tank if it's crudded up).
* Re-install tank and fill with filtered water. Turn machine off, count to 15 then turn on again. This usually turns on pump to add water to inner tank. If this does not happen then there is a CPU problem. If it does hums for 5-10 seconds then goes off but no heating then the pump may have an air bubble in line. Try the turn off and on method several times (up to 5) to get the water flowing. If it's still not working then there is a clog in the pump and will need service and/or replacement.
* Did you change water source? Since this is a table top machine in which you fill the water tank. Try to use filtered (bottled ok) water. Do Not use Distilled or 100% pure water as this type of water will eat out the metals from your machine! Some places use a water softener as it tends to be better for the machine long term (years).
* Still got problems? Check with vendor or MFR for service or replacement. Most machines of this type do not have serviceable parts or adjustments.
Descaling Saeco Automatic espresso machinesSAECO VIENNA SUPERAUTOMATIC MACHINES: SAECO VIENNA DIGITAL - MANUAL DESCALE PROGRAM 1. Fill the water tank with the Saeco descaling solution. (1 bottle of Saeco descaling solution to one full tank of water.) 2. Turn on the machine. Run approximately 1 cup through the steam wand by turning open the hot water steam valve). Turn machine off and let sit for 5 minutes. 4. Repeat this procedure until the water tank is empty. Then rinse water tank thoroughly and flush the machine by running two tanks of clear water through the steam wand. 5. To clear the "Decalcify" message on the Digital model, press the MENU/OK key to go into programming mode. Scroll up or down to select the "Signal.Descal" function. Press MENU/OK. Next, the messages " Quantity Water Not Reached" and "Left Quantity" will flash. Press MENU/OK again - the message "Reset Descaling Program - Yes" will appear. Press MENU/OK again. The Descale meter is now cleared. SAECO VIENNA DIGITAL - AUTOMATIC DESCALE PROGRAM 1. Press the MENU/OK key to go into programming mode. Scroll up or down to select the "Descaling" function . Press MENU/OK key. Place a large container under the hot water/steam nozzle. Fill the water tank with Saeco descaling solution. (1 bottle of Saeco descaling solution to one full tank of water. Refer to the instructions on the bottle). 2. Then completely open the hot water/steam rotary valve/knob. The pump starts and the descaling program begins. During this phase the pump runs at intervals and the message "Machine is Descaling" is displayed. The complete program takes about 40 minutes. Do not add any water to the tank during this phase. When the message "Descaling Finished" appears, close the hot water/steam valve. The message "Rinse Machine" will appear. 4. Remove and rinse water tank thoroughly, fill with fresh water and replace on machine. Empty the container under the hot water/steam nozzle and replace. Flush the machine by running the tank of clear water through the hot water/steam wand until the message "Rinsing Finished" appears. Exit the Programming mode by pressing "MENU/OK" Refill the water tank with fresh water. 5. To clear the "Decalcify" message on the Digital model, press the MENU/OK key to go into programming mode. Scroll up or down to select the "Signal.Descal" function. Press MENU/OK. Next, the messages " Quantity Water Not Reached" and "Left Quantity" will flash. Press MENU/OK again - the message "Reset Descaling Program - Yes" will appear. Press MENU/OK again. The Descale meter is now cleared. Descaling Single Boiler Home espresso machines(HOME SINGLE BOILER ESPRESSO MACHINES)
Approximately every 3 months (depending on your use and the water hardness), clean the machine with natural citric acid based decalcifying agent. 1. Add a descaling solution into the water reservoir. Mix thoroughly to dissolve (use warm water for better results). 2. Remove the filter holder and place a cup under the group head and another cup, or other container, under the steam wand to catch cleaning solution. 3. Turn espresso machine on, turn coffee pump on and run approximately 8 oz. of solution through the brew head. Turn machine off and let the machine sit for 15 minutes. 4.Run approximately 8 oz. through the steam wand, and again, turn machine off and let sit for 15 minutes. Repeat by allowing solution to run alternately through the steam wand and brew head. Turn espresso machine off after each cycle. Repeat process until solution has been run through. 5. Do not leave espresso machine on. Do not wait for the ready light to come on. Do not use the steam switch during this process. Do not allow reservoir to run empty! 6. Rinse reservoir thoroughly with fresh water. Refill reservoir with fresh water. Run half a tank of fresh water through group head, alternating between group head and steam wand.
Never run descaling solution through the brew unit. You should never descale the machine hot either.
1. To decalcify your boiler, remove your water tank and fill it with hot water (100 to 120 degrees). Open a pack of decalcifier and mix into the water tank. Place the tank back on the machine, then turn the machine on.
2. Open the steam knob and run approximately eight ounces of solution into a spare container. Turn the machineoff and let set about 10 to 15 minutes. It is very important that the machine does not remain on to heat the boiler anymore than necessary.
3. Repeat step #2 for your type of machine. Do this until you have consumed the entire water tank of solution (approximately four to five cycles) .
4. Remove water tank and rinse it with fresh water.
5. Refill the water tank with fresh water and place it back on the machine.
6. Repeat step #2 to rinse the machine, only this time use the entire water tank at one time, and there is not need to let it set. Done, refill your tank and run some water, and you are ready to go.
In the water tank there is a float with magnet inside. When water is filled it should rise up to indicate the machine has water.If it is not floating up ,try putting some foam underneath to raise up.It should help.
Remember, it is better to descale more often than not enough. 1. To decalcify your boiler, remove your water tank and fill it with hot water (100 to 120 degrees). Open a pack of decalcifier and mix into the water tank. Once it is dissolved, place the tank back on the machine, and then turn the machine on. 2. Open the steam knob and run approximately eight ounces of solution into a spare container. Turn the machine off and let set about 10 to 15 minutes. Longer is better. It is very important that the machine does not remain on to heat the boiler anymore than necessary. 3. Repeat step #2 for your machine. Do this until you have consumed the entire water tank of solution (approximately four to five cycles). (I do it at night before I go to bed and let the last cycle set in the boiler till morning.) 4. Remove water tank and rinse it with fresh water. Now open the knob and run the whole tank at one time to rinse. 5. Refill water tank with fresh water and place it back on the machine. Done
in the kit of the machine they give a little pump if you dont have it use a turkey blaster the toll when you cook a turkey to put juice on it use that remove the water tank fill the blaster with water open side valve put pressure on the blaster put it in the hole where the water tank goes and apply as mush pressure as you can repeat it should vent itself if sign goes off refill water tank that it pierre
Common on Armonia... There is no water in the system, so the pump is pumping air!! you have to push on the usual button but make sure the hot water button (for tea for ex) on the right side (same as steam opening valve) of the machine is open. This will allow the water to re-flow through the system. Once water is coming out again, close hose, and stop water button. Once hose is closed, and you repush the water button, it will flow again through the coffee hole. Voila