Question about Woods InWall 7 Day Digital Programmable Timer (59018)
Trying to install a 59018 with older copper wiring. My house has a solid copper (neutral) that I've attached to the Woods' green. My house has a black copper wire painted white that I've attached to the Woods' white wire. Here's the problem. I only have one black house copper wire. The Woods unit calls for two black wires. I tried to attach it to the red and black Woods wires. The Woods unit powers up. I can hit the on/off button and it turns red and you can feel it switching. However, my lights (two canister CFLs) don't power on or off. Do I need to scrap the project or is there a simple solution (beyond calling in an electrician)? Thanks!
1) It is safe, but not code.
The timer uses such a tiny amount of power that the installation is safe, and the line is still protected by circuit breaker.
2) In the main breaker box, the neutral wires and ground wires are bonded together and both connect to ground wire leading out to pole and down into the ground.
3) By code a ground wire cannot be used as a neutral, even though both are connected together in the main box.
This is so electrician can work on ground wires while ASSUMING they do not complete a circuit.
NO ELECTRICIAN should assume that, since the purpose of ground wires is to ground stray current.
Posted on Dec 30, 2012
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Posted on Jan 02, 2017
The usual connection for this type timer is the house black power to the timer black, the house white power to the timer white and the , the light black wire to the red timer wire.
If you only have two wires, one black and one white, at the switch location, then you cannot use this style timer , as it needs a neutral. You should return this timer and get one that does not require a neutral connection.
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Posted on Jun 01, 2010
I have same problem and called the manufacturer. They told me they are supposed to help and that these need to be installed by an electrician.
Glad I bought mine at a Menard's which is targeted to the general market.
I don't want to support a company that says things like that to their customers so I am bringing mine back.
Posted on Oct 13, 2009
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These in-wall timers have extra wire to operate the electronics located inside timer.
You said your old switch has 3 wires.
The new timer can only replace on-off switch that has 2 brass screws and a green screw.
If old switch has 2 brass screws and a dark screw, that is a 3-way switch.
Typically a 3-way switch is found at both ends of hallway.
The Woods 95008 countdown timer is not made to replace 3-way:
Here's what to do:
1) Switch has 2 wires (plus bare ground wire). Take switch wires and connect them to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
2) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires. This wire will power timer electronics.
3) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground, along with timer-green wire.
4) Turn on electricity, and push override button located below the OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.
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Posted on Dec 22, 2010
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1) Woods 59000 series in-wall countdown timer has extra wire to run electronic clock circuit inside timer, just like plugging in ordinary alarm clock.
2) Open following link for wiring instructions, and to download online manual:
How to wire 59000 and 59017 in-wall timers
1) Timer-green-wire connects to bare ground wire.
2) Switch has 2 wires. Take switch wires and connect to timer-black-wire and timer-red-wire. Choose either one for now.
3) In back of electric box are white wires twisted together and covered with wire nut. Connect timer-white to these wires.
4) If electric box does not have white wires described above, then connect timer-white to bare ground along with green wire.
5) Turn on electricity, and push ON-OFF button. If lights come on, timer is wired correctly. If lights do not come on, then reverse timer-red and timer-black wires.
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Posted on Feb 21, 2011
Timer is wired wrong and timer white and timer red wires are probably connected together.
Timer white wire has to be connected to white neutral wires that are twisted together and shoved to back of box. This will power the clock mechanism inside timer.
If box does not have white neutrals, then connect timer white wire to bare ground wire along with timer green wire.
Timer black wire connects to Hot wire.
Timer red wire connects to Load wire.
Posted on Jul 10, 2011
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Programming cannot take place until timer is wired correctly and power turned on. This is because clock motor inside timer runs on 120V circuit:
Timer has 4 wires
Black wire from timer connects to black hot wire from breaker box
Red wire connects to black wire going to load (lights, fan etc)
White wire from timer connects to white neutral from breaker box ((if no neutral is available, then connect white wire to bare ground wire)
Green wire connects to bare copper wire
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