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PCIe 16x not picking up graphics card

I got a Nvidia 6100 embedded to my motherboard. I purchased a few different Nvidia cards (from an 8800 - 9600) during christmas time and none would work. I went thru the steps to disable the onboard in BIOS (Funny things about the BIOS, it was all ready set to the PCI, but I don't have a separate graphic card0 and still nothing. I couldn't get a picture thru the new graphics card, actually three different graphics cards. I even took it to the Geek Squad and they said they had no clue why it wasn't working. Is it possible that the PCIe slot is there just for show? Why can't I update my video card?

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  • jahnobi Feb 11, 2009

    i have the same problem on the same machine. there is nothing in the bios to disable the onboard video card. the only options is initial display first option and it was already on PCI-E. i am still stumped by this. i was told that it could be a power issue so i upgraded my power supply. i can' tthink of anything else it can be. i need some help. thanks
    paul


  • Lamar Ryan
    Lamar Ryan May 11, 2010

    Do know what motherboard it is?

  • Thomas F. Schneider May 11, 2010

    Sound like a bad BIOS chip.

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Disable the onboard graphix in bios

Posted on Feb 01, 2009

  • Matthew Spark
    Matthew Spark Feb 27, 2009

    yup, prolly na power supply issue. you have to have a farely powerful psu for those high end graphix cards.

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Change graphics card


1) Follow Anti-Static Procedures

Your body carries Static electricity. Static WILL fry out (Short Circuit), the delicate hardware components inside a computer.

Relieve your body of Static, BEFORE reaching inside your computer.

Computer on a table, computer Unplugged from power, computer case open;
TOUCH an unpainted surface, of the metal frame of the open computer case.

This action will relieve your body of Static.

IF, you leave your computer in the middle of working on it, be SURE to Touch the metal frame again; upon your return.

(Also use Anti-Static Procedures BEFORE removing new hardware, out of their antistatic bags, or cartons. Such as a graphics card, for example )

Now we come to;
1) Are you still using the graphics the computer came with?
According to this website it is an ATI Radeon X1300 graphics card,

http://www.cnet.com.au/dell-dimension-e521_specs-339271259.htm

Example,

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-ATI-Radeon-X1300-256MB-DDR2-DVI-TV-Graphics-Video-Card-PCI-Express-/151012337856?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item23290968c0

(The Integrated Graphics on the motherboard, is Nvidia GeForce 6150LE,

http://support.dell.com/support/systemsinfo/document.aspx?s=dfh&~file=/systems/dime521/en/sm_en/specs.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_6_Series#GeForce_6150LE )

The graphics expansion slot you have is a PCI-Express x16 slot.
It is based on the Nvidia nForce 430, and Nvidia GeForce 6150LE; motherboard chipset,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_6_.286xxx.29_series

Came out on the market June of 2006.

The PCI Express 2.0 technology didn't come out, until
January 15, 2007,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_2.0

Therefore, we can assume the PCI Express technology your computer is using, is PCI Express 1.1

You can use a PCI Express 2.0 graphics card, though.

This is is because PCI Express 2.0 technology, is Backward Compatible with PCI Express 1.1 technology.

"PCIe 2.0 motherboard slots are fully backward compatible with PCIe v1.x cards.

PCIe 2.0 cards are also generally backward compatible with PCIe 1.x motherboards, using the available bandwidth of PCI Express 1.1.

Overall, graphic cards or motherboards designed for v2.0 will work with the other being v1.1 or v1.0a."

(From the above Wikipedia article)

However, will you get the full capability of the PCI Express 2.0 graphics card?

NO

Will you notice?

NO

You can also use a PCI Express graphics card, based on the PCI Express 2.1 technology.

Requirements;
1) PCI-Express x16 slot.
You have that.

(The Lock lever on the end, looks as though you press down, to unlock.
Actually you LIFT UP, slightly.

Use CARE though, and do NOT lift too much. You'll see it just takes a little. It's also PLASTIC, and can break.

Lift up slightly to install a graphics card, on remove one )

2) Power Supply:
You need to look at the system requirements. Plus more specifically, the Power Requirements.

Website that sells the graphics card does Not state this?
Go to a different website that does.

Your Power Supply is rated at 305 Watts.

HOWEVER, this power supply was made back in the day, when Power Supply manufacturers were 'fudging'; the REAL actual maximum rated Wattage.

Actual maximum rated Wattage is more like 60 to 70 percent, of what is stated.

305 Watts divided by 10 = 30.5
Round it off to 30.

30 times 6 = 180 Watts
30 times 7 = 210 Watts

BIG difference.

Recommendation?
It really depends on what you wish to do, with the graphics card.

It also depends on if you are willing to get a better Power Supply.

It also depends on the Processor.
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3600+?

Dual core processor that can operate Up To, a maximum frequency rate ('Speed'), of 2.0GHz.
(Can also be stated as 2000MegaHertz.
2000MHz)

Not bad.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7620168&CatId=3585

Going to need a 400 Watt power supply, though.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2941922&CatId=3669

Same here.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=899123&Sku=T925-5002

500 Watt power supply.
Gives you more, than the recommended 10 percent extra power you should have.
This way the Power Supply will last longer, because it doesn't have to work as hard.

For additional questions please post in a Comment.
Regards,
joecoolvette

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I want to swap my graphic card from a hp to a emachine


If you give me the model of the hp, the e-machine and the graphics card I could tell if it will work.
There are three types of cards ranked from slow/oldest to fast/new
  • PCI
  • AGP (dedicated graphics)
  • PCIe (16x slots are for graphics cards)


Almost everyone computer for the last 10 or so years will have PCI slots, usually only one no a days
AGP was a dedicated slot for graphics cards also outdated and anything newer than 2004-5 will probably not have one.
PCIe came out in 2004 and replaced AGP.

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How to install Pci-e 16x in a pci slot


Do not put a PCI-e card in a PCI slot. It will not fit and the card won't work. The PCI card has 58 or 60 pins on each side with the slot (62 pins would be present if not for the key notches for alignment). PCIe 16x cards have 32 pins.

There are adapters to put a PCI card in a PCIe 1x slot (will fit any PCIe slot) or a PCIe1x card in a PCI slot. See http://www.amfeltec.com/index.php for a sample of the adapters. For the PCIe 16x cards, you need a new motherboard.

If you are placing a PCI-e 16x card in a PCIe 16x slot or a PCI card in a PCI slot, then open the side of your case. Locate the matching slot (remove the current card) or an empty slot depending on your motherboard. Depending on the case, you may need to remove a screw to remove the old card. Wiggle the card straight up to remove it. If you are putting in a new card, you will need to remove the cover from the slot. (For some larger PCIe 16x cards, you need to remove the adjacent slot cover as well.) Some covers just pull straight up or pry a lever up and then pull; for others, you will need to use a screwdriver to break the cover out. Make sure there is sufficient room near the slot for the card. (You may need to move other cards around.)

Then line up the card so that the back of the card will fit into the opening and the contacts on the bottom of the card are above the center of the slot. Firmly press the card down into the slot without changing the alignment. You may need to wiggle it (press down on the back and front, alternatingly). Then make sure the card is fully seated. Attach the addtional power cord from your power supply, if needed for a PCIe 16x card.

Close your case. Then if this is a new video card, turn on the computer and enter the BIOS (press F1, F2, F10, Esc depending on the machine). Disable the on-board video. Then reboot the computer and load the drivers you need for the card.

I hope this helps.

Cindy Wells

Oct 16, 2011 | PC Desktops

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Support graphics card or not


Yes, it has 1 PCIe 16x slot. This can be used for a graphics card. Just make sure the video card you get is for a PCIe slot.

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Hp pavilion slimline s5000 series whats the highest graphics card i can put in it


There are 14 different versions in the s5000 series of slimline desktop computers,
{From s5200z to the s5285t}

http://www8.hp.com/us/en/support-drivers.html

Some are Intel processor based, some are AMD processor based.
The Power Supply wattage differs also. Seems it goes from 220 Watts to 300 Watts.

All versions have a PCI-Express x16 expansion slot, though.

[ It is based on the PCI-Express 1.1 version technology
A graphics card based on the PCI-Express 2.0 technology will work.
Why?

Because PCI-Express 2.0 is backward compatible with PCI-Express 1.1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI-Express

"PCIe 2.0 motherboard slots are fully backward compatible with PCIe v1.x cards. PCIe 2.0 cards are also generally backward compatible with PCIe 1.x motherboards, using the available bandwidth of PCI Express 1.1. Overall, graphic cards or motherboards designed for v2.0 will work with the other being v1.1 or v1.0."

Means;
1) Motherboards based on the PCI-Express 2.0 technology, are compatible with a PCI-Express graphics card that is based on the older PCI-Express 1.1 technology.

2) PCI-Express graphics cards are also generally compatible, if they operate at the smaller bandwidth of PCI-Express 1.1

Since the slower technology of PCI-Express 1.1 is what is available on your motherboard, a graphics card based on PCI-Express 2.0 will not operate at full capability.

{Graphics cards based on the new PCI-Express 2.1 technology will work also }

Will you notice?
No ]

What is the limit for a graphics card?
The sky.

Two problems though.
A) The Power Supply
B) The available room inside the computer case for a graphics card.


1) Power Supply:
According to HP Support, and looking at the specifications for the s5200z, and s5285t, the top of the line graphics card is an Nvidia GT220.

This is due to the low power consumption. (And probably reduced cost from Nvidia)

Based on price, and performance however, the GT220 is a less than choice.

Using a Zotac version as an example,

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=348736&CatId=3669

Stream Processors = 48

You can have the fastest Core Clock, and Memory Clock, plus all kinds of graphics ram memory, but if you do not have enough Stream Processors, your graphics card will be less than adequate.

Consider Stream Processors as the 'Information Highway'. The path that graphics information takes from the Processor to the Graphics Card, and back.

If you do not have enough stream processors it's like a road being worked on.
Traffic is redirected into just one lane. Everything slows down.
There is a 'Bottleneck'.

Most decent graphics cards that are better than a GT220, require a Power Supply with 400 Watts, or greater.
.
The size and shape of the Power Supply's case, makes it hard to find a replacement that is greater than 300 Watts.

2) Available room for a graphics card (Height) inside the computer case:

With the Slimline case you have to purchase graphics cards that are Low-Profile.
{Low Height}

It isn't so much the length that you need to be concerned with, as it is the height of the graphics card.
The length of a graphics card goes from the back of the computer towards the front.
The height of a graphics card goes from side to side inside the computer case.

Average width inside a Slimline case seems to be around 4 inches.

You have to take into consideration; how far the motherboard is supported off of the support plate inside the computer case, and when inserted how high does the graphics card sit in the PCI-Express x16 expansion slot.
4 inches is Not enough room.

If it were I, I would remove all internal components, and install them in a cheap, decent, Mid-tower computer case. There is more room inside the case for a taller graphics card, and the case will use the common ATX style of Power Supply. A 600 Watt ATX power supply is pretty economical.

{There is also more room inside for air flow. Air is the cooling medium for a desktop computer. (Unless it's a high-end gamer computer. Dry Ice, Nitrogen, Refrigerant etc. have been used )

More air flow means cooler hardware components inside the computer.
Result? Longer life, more reliable }

Then I would use an ATI Radeon HD 5750 graphics card, (And a decent 600 Watt power supply)

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=465512&CatId=3669

{A decent mid-tower computer case averages around $50 }

Regards,
joecoolvette

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http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h729.htm

you can also check out nvidia.com and amd.com for ATI products.

in general the more ram the card has (256, 512, 1024) the better the graphics capabilities.

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