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Alarm &immobiliser my alarm fob has broken so i disconnected the earth to shut off the noise. the car wont start on the key but runs normally when bumpstarted. i phoned my local vauxhall dealer about a new fob but the guy said the starting problem was not related to the alarm. I found this somewhat confusing as it started perfectly well before. Any advise would be appreciated. Thankyou.

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  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    Because of the position of the alarm siren i dont think it can be but not sure.

    I havent owned it from new. The siren is under the bonnet above the radiator.

  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    Bump starting is starting by rolling the car then releasing the clutch whilst in gear.

  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    That was my thinking Te untill the guy at vauxhall said it wasnt.

    Never had a problem starting untill this alarm went wrong.

  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    Lol bunny can remember doing that back in the day when starter motors were accesible.

  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    Forgot to mention that i have taken starter motor off and it did run off direct power although somewhat slowly.

  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    Will try that in the morning as its dark here already.

    Thanks for all your input, will post result asap.

    Pete.

  • pedropony2 Jan 16, 2009

    No probs ed.

    Just thought i would try and shut him up as he is getting on my nerves.

  • pedropony2 Jan 18, 2009

    Have found where the alarm is spliced into the harness behind the glove box. Have reconnected these and still wont start on key.

    Have a nasty feeling this could be a problem with electronic ignition as the wife now tells me she smelled something burning the day before this all happened. Will there be a fuse for the ignition that i can check?

  • pedropony2 Jan 19, 2009

    Armed with all this info i phoned a local auto tech who has disconnected the alarm from the ignition system and all is well.

    Many thanks for all your help which as always was spot on.

  • Toyota Ed May 11, 2010

    Thanks.

  • Toyota Ed May 11, 2010

    @ Pedro....Please ignore Ginko. He is feeding on responses to continue his rants. This request comes from Lauren. Thanks.

  • Toyota Ed May 11, 2010

    PP2 - Get a 12 volt testlight, and unplug the small wire off of the starter. Hook the testlight to the battery earth terminal. Touch the pointy end of the test light probe to the small unconnected wire end, the metal part....

    Turn the key to start. Does the light illuminate?

  • Toyota Ed May 11, 2010

    PP2 - I do not agree with the guy at Vauxhall.



    Question: Can you see the starter motor, when the bonnet is up?

  • Roberta Smith
    Roberta Smith May 11, 2010

    it still applies to newer cars... i'm presuming by what you are saying that you cannot see the starter for some reason ?



    Robert

  • Roberta Smith
    Roberta Smith May 11, 2010

    I have an old fashioned idea... have someone try to start it and smack the starter with a hammer... anything ?



    Robert

  • Toyota Ed May 11, 2010

    If you can bump-start it, that indicates that the "start" signal from the keyswitch is not being sent to the starter motor. The security system that you have described may just be the culprit. Some security systems inturupt the start signal, to prevent theft.

  • Toyota Ed May 11, 2010

    I would guess that there is something connected between the ignition switch and the wiring harness in the dash. What I would do, Pedro, is to pull the bottom dash panel off, and look at the wires that go to the ignition switch. See if there are some wiring that is connected between the dash harness and the ignition switch. If there are wires between the connector from the dash to the ign switch, follow them until you come up to a box of some kind. Then let me know what you see.

  • Roberta Smith
    Roberta Smith May 11, 2010

    define bumpstarting... do you mean when someone gives you a boost from their car battery ?



    Robert

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Glad you got it fixed.

Posted on Jan 19, 2009

  • Toyota Ed Jan 19, 2009

    Thnaks for the FixYa. Much appreciated!

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Chances are you need to replace the starter then... if it runs slowly with no load... it likely won't even turn the motor

Robert

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    Something i might add.... ed is very good at what he does. so weigh the information from the dealer who wants to make a profit and ed who is offering you his knowledge without hopes of compensation



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The security system is shutting down the starter. is it factory alarm?

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    TripleTauto Jan 16, 2009

    if it is aftermarket alarm, under the dash you should see where they spliced into the starter wire coming out of ign just hook this back up.also look under dash for a small button this is the valet switch and if you push it it should reset and let you start. At least this is the way it is done in usa most of time

  • TripleTauto
    TripleTauto Jan 18, 2009

    have you checked the signal when in start position like ed said? the burning smell could be something in ign switch.i dont have any diagrams on this car so all i can tell you is to check the starter signal coming out of switch and if you have a signal there keep checking down the line till you lose it

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